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136143.6 in reply to 136143.3
Date: 3/23/2010 12:40:24 AM
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CoachParrot
I think that the main use of CoachParrot is to project the team ratings for an upcoming game. It can be helpful to get an idea of the team ratings that will be produced from a certain level of enthusiasm, game shape, player skills, likely minutes played, and tactics. By having a good grasp of what team ratings will be produced by Canada, in a given week, it can be easier to get a rough feel for an upcoming match (for example, how close will the game likely be, what overall team strengths and weaknesses should be main factors, etc.). However, team ratings are only one tool to understanding what happens on the court, and I would never base a lineup solely on Coachparrot date. Some limitations of team ratings include, for example:

-Positions are not weighed equally. C and PG have the biggest impact, and SF has a reduced impact. However, a SF can still be the most important player in a given game.
-Driving skill has no impact on team ratings (or minimal impact), but probably does something helpful.
-Guard skills for big men have very little impact on team ratings, but can be crucial factors in a game (for example, a PF with excellent jump shot matched up against a PF with terrible OD).
etc.

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136143.7 in reply to 136143.4
Date: 3/23/2010 8:25:01 AM
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I will not wade into the debate too much but I will make these next two posts.



I have been in Miami on vacation the past 2 weeks so I have only used the computer when absolutely neccessary. But thats out of the way and now I'm back to being fully committed.


I presume you have been in BB for more than one season, please correct me if I am wrong? Since I have been the U21 manager, I do not remember you volunteering for anything. Whether it was draft scouting this season, last season or any other season. I also do not remember ever seeing a post from you on the off-site forum.

In any case, there is still a lot of draft scouting left to do. Drop by the thread and check out what divisions are left. The faster we get it done, the better.


Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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136143.8 in reply to 136143.6
Date: 3/23/2010 8:31:00 AM
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Some great replies.

I will say that at the moment you would be my preferred candidate, whether others step in or not. In terms of assistance that you provided during my term, there was no one equal. In the end, you were sort of like my official assistant and in many cases I could easily say that you ran the team for me... Your tactical advice was always outstanding and I really respect what you have done with your club team in such a short time.

Also, you know the player pool since I have shared all the scouting lists with you. So you have an advantage there. Although, if it was someone different it would probably not take them long to get up to speed.

So, good luck in your campaign. I could be convinced to vote for someone else, but it would take a lot of convincing. ;-)

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136143.9 in reply to 136143.8
Date: 3/23/2010 8:34:25 AM
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One closing thought that the candidates can chew on... We will have home court advantage this season but it is not a fantastic pool of players to draw from. I would actually say this is a bit of a set-back for our U21, given the fantastic squads we have had the last two seasons.

So... I don't know what to make of that. I guess there is reason for optimism, since with home court you can often pull incredible upsets. But I do not think I would get my hopes too high.

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136143.10 in reply to 136143.4
Date: 3/23/2010 3:13:15 PM
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Thanks for answer Bernard, but would you mind providing more specifics?

For example:
- I still want to know why we should believe in the tactical acumen of someone who failed to promote out of the bottom division. What tactical changes would to make from how you run your team (i.e. the same offense all season and almost always the same defense, same player rotation) and how you would run the U21 team.
- What specific one dimension role players would you consider to be of value? (pure shooter? Inside scoring SF? defensive stopper? What exact skill combination would you look for in such role players?
- How exactly would you advertise the U21 team to managers?


I guess more than anything else I still remain curious as to why you want to run the U21 team. You have not signed up for the offsite forum, have not commented on anything related to the NT program and do not seem to have any specific ideas for improvement. I am open minded here, so convince me.

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136143.11 in reply to 136143.10
Date: 3/23/2010 3:15:07 PM
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Question for everyone:

Do you have any players who you think may be U21 prospects and who might be in consideration during the next two seasons? If so, who are they? Would the fact that they're on your club team change your decision making process when it comes to placing them on the team?

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136143.12 in reply to 136143.10
Date: 3/23/2010 3:45:26 PM
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I'm sorry this is to much for me I have officially dropped out, I didn't know it took this much. Maybe in a few years
I will run again but with a country like Canada it would be to hard. I have just joined the forum so this won't be the end of me but for now I have officially dropped out.


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136143.13 in reply to 136143.1
Date: 3/23/2010 4:43:31 PM
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My question for the candidates is:

After Moran and Perkins, there appears to be a large drop-off in talented inside players eligible for the U-21 NT... so how will you plan on using them? and will you hold off on naming fringe players to the team and wait until we play important games (by this I don't mean playing Barbados or Jamaica, I mean playing Argentina, Brazil, Chile etc...)?

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136143.14 in reply to 136143.13
Date: 3/23/2010 5:01:37 PM
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Test for everybody:

If we were playing the strong team Portugal tomarrow, what tactics and what lineups would you choose. Explain every tough choice you had to make when writing your answer. Keep game shape etc. in mind. Postscript. Only use the current U21 roster when making your lineups

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