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sell out = build now
1 build a small amount that fiinish before the next home game
2 build more and finish 3-4 days before the following home game

and increase prize before next prize change @31/12
estimate the price by checking out the price of ur neighbour
assume everything equal since u still have cup games, u should have a better survey than even the top teams

so what do you suggest.?
what ratios would do to brake down about 2 million dollar in arena up grading..

i cn do all that with 2 mill? or is that projected long term goal for me.

i would cut always in 1 and 2, that also might be situational dependent if you reduce it to the economical aspect.

Disagree. You changed league level only once in history, after half of the season after You joined to BB. So You have no experience in this thing. Trust me, always is better to win promotion (or survive) to/in higher league than to increase arena. Difference between incomes in higher and lower league are huge and You can always exploit it to increase arena in next 14 weeks in higher league.
So if You lost promotion (or were relegated) only because You increased arena, it's ALWAYS wrong decision.
PS: Increasing arena is only economical aspect so we can't compare it to other aspects.

Last edited by B.B.King at 12/5/2011 7:36:37 AM

Disagree. You changed league level only once in history, after half of the season after You joined to BB. So You have no experience in this thing. Trust me, always is better to win promotion (or survive) to/in higher league than to increase arena. Difference between incomes in higher and lower league are huge and You can always exploit it to increase arena in next 14 weeks in higher league.
So if You lost promotion (or were relegated) only because You increased arena, it's ALWAYS wrong decision.
PS: Increasing arena is only economical aspect so we can't compare it to other aspects.

but the less seats you have the more valuable is there increase and when you are close to max prices, more attention is nearly worthless.

And i had some experience, as mentor and observer.

Also the first promotion could appear, pretty fast and nearly with a guarantee to bounce back, and demotion isn#t that good to, combined with a pretty much basic arena you mostly suffer from it in the bounch backs eason without gaining the advantage in the first one, when you invest heavily in the team instead of the enviroment to make a more serious try the next season.

Edit: winning titles, and avoiding relegation are main target of the game(in my eyes), so they have a extra value which should be considered too. This extra value the focusing on arena didn#t have, and could be considered as plus of your "always" rules. Thats why i said, on a econic standpoint it is not always right ( i most likely loose money, with a relativ cheap championship roster, so if my arena didn't need work the possible title would be the worse decision ecomic but i would do this "fault" - probadly thats example number too)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 12/5/2011 7:58:02 AM

Incomes in higher league are circa about by 50% higher. It's enough to increase arena faster in higher league.
In worst case (if complet is always when prices are maximal) investment reimburses 10 weeks. In regular season we have 11 weeks. But one season more in lower division means less incomes. So if You increase arena and therefore You must play next season in lower division it means that You don't retrieve invested money.

In other cases (if prices aren't maximal) investment reimburses 3+ seasons (because if You increase arena You must decrease prices), then decision to play in lower division, only because money needed to survive/win promotion was used to increase arena, can be called even stupid.

Therefore it's always better to increase arena in higher division. I made this calculations 4 times (between div 5 and 4, 4 and 3, 3 and 2, 1 and 2). In my calculations I used only ticket incomes. But marchendise and TV contract in higher league is higher too, so this money could be used to increase arena as well.

Incomes in higher league are circa about by 50% higher. It's enough to increase arena faster in higher league.

expenses are also higher, and you need the same succes for it.(and yes first season you have a nice promotion boost)

It's enough to increase arena faster in higher league.

but when you aren't in position, cause of a already small arena you wouldn't see the higher income to increasse it faster.

In worst case (if complet is always when prices are maximal) investment reimburses 10 weeks.

In other cases (if prices aren't maximal) investment reimburses 3+ seasons (because if You increase arena You must decrease prices), only because money needed to survive/win promotion was used to increase arena, can be called even stupid.

your worst case for succes, is exactly the optimum case - and totally unrealistic like your optional case scenario for staying in league. it is by far not optional to charge the maximum amount of money, especially at current high prices are very valuable.

Therefore it's always better to increase arena in higher division.

yeah that better, but often you have to choose betwen one of them. And them you start gaining money earlier, and when you are back at your old level when you finished building you didn#t get handicap through the demotion.