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But hey top teams training 18yo again, the world is wonderfull.

Well, even that is questionable since the top teams would probably rather train 21-yo players.

is the worry that top teams cant train players from 18 (and remain competitive in cup and tournament), and also maybe that there arent good enough (affordable enough) 21 year old + coming through that the top teams would want to buy and train?

Im not sure this idea would help to change these dynamics.

Something that would help is being there for new managers and encouraging them to train up 18 year olds well. The bigger the supply of well trained 18 -21 year olds that come through the more that will be available for the top teams at affordable prices to train onwards...

Something that would help is being there for new managers and encouraging them to train up 18 year olds well. The bigger the supply of well trained 18 -21 year olds that come through the more that will be available for the top teams at affordable prices to train onwards...

is that really a problem, today?

And with slow training speed and random training which cost money, it won't make much sense anyway cause the gain in value through training isn't that big even today, and with bigger supply and not optional training i doubt you would make a econoically good decision.

The idea is that like on the actual D-League, where the games practicaly does not interest anyone, so is this league.
Hence, there is no meaning of actualy playing.

It has nothing to do with GS management.
As I wrote on a specific week a player could not play on both leagues (or be sold).
In addition, it could be define that one more drawback will be that the GS when returning to the "real" league will be only (and always) "Average" (for example).

Regarding the Training issue you've brought;
Yes, it is (almost) exactly that.
In most cases, the drafted players are just does not worth the hustle of real-training at their team (again - exactly like in the NBA). But, the players are still may be observed as future prospect fot that team, but only if he could be trained.
This suggestion makes the draft a little bit more something that worth investing at. Especially at higher leagues.

Regarding a server issue who had been brought here (by someone else).
Are you realy sure you can tell how much will it cost in server time? I doubt that.
Are you realy sure that the BB-masters will not prefer adding this (or any other feature) that may be worth paying more for better servers? You don't and cannot know.
Any "Real" feature will cost in performance, should we close all this "Suggestions" forum? No we don't.

High league teams do train young players (even under 20). It's more rare than in low leagues, but for two reasons:
1) Low leagues cannot keep training players over 22 years old if they have been well trained before, cause of high salaries.
2) High leagues need to have at least one player with skills of a 22 y old guy to be competitive. Like in NBA, team need experimented players to play the big games.

High teams rarely train young players as a stradegy (and not just by chance) if at all.

As for a D-League team, how can you imagine someone willing to use a player who had an half training. Even more a team in high league. There, we need players who have been trained 98% of the time, not 45% of the time.

I imagine this working exactly like in the NBA...
For the right price, this will be worth it for those teams, and the draft whould have real sense except getting randomly players that an immediate sell is the only thing they can do with them.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 12/9/2011 10:46:31 AM

I don't see any merit in this.

its certainly an interesting idea in principle but it would require thinking about how training would work.

id like to think of a development league about bridging an experience gap or something, for a new draftee rather than providing extra training for skills. or for seeing how they cope with game situations, but then there are scrimmages and private league games which can do this

Thanks Pini for writing up the suggestion.

The idea spawned out of this thread. (203867.33)
The basic idea in summary - Some kind of D-league, consisting of only U21 players, who can migrate between league and D-league, but receive the training and game shape benefits of normal league games.

In response to peoples queries, the intended benefits of some kind of D-league are:

- Top league teams would have more interest in training 18-19 year olds (which is minimal at the moment).
- Upper league teams would then have less inclination to tank, drop down to lower leagues, in order to experience the game in a different aspect (selling up, training players from scratch etc).
- Having a D-league would give greater importance of your scrubs that you draft. One of the biggest complaints about BB is that only 4 good players come out of the draft. The D-league would hopefully give some interest into the 'crappier' players.
- Other benefits may be training minute management, experience points, game shape management, etc etc etc. Yet to be defined though.

We have national U21 teams. D-league would be of similar vein to that.

The idea is still very raw, but the idea of the league has been spawned out of discussion of various issues with BB. Some of which are tanking, Upper league teams not training young players, dis-interest in the draft, etc etc.

As I stated in my other thread, this kind of league could be tested in a 'Private League' format as an optional feature for some users, (with no added league benefit) to begin with....

Current oustanding issues
- the way that players who are both league and D-league teams migrate between the leagues, and potential benefits (ie: do they get full training minutes? How does game shape work).

Am open to any ideas/suggestions on how this could potentially work.
As I said, it would be similar to a private league, but with some conditions/rules placed around the players who can be on the team, and then with some kind of integration into your league side.

At this stage, i think its best that any financial aspect of the D-league be left out. So if you have a D-league team, there is no economy as such. Just to keep things simple to begin with.