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From: Ashurri

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204702.6 in reply to 204702.3
Date: 12/16/2011 9:06:19 AM
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All GS with the exception of Proficient have sublevels. DMI drops can also mean that their GS have dropped in sublevels.

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204702.7 in reply to 204702.5
Date: 12/16/2011 9:08:41 AM
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Even if the game shape you see for that player stays the same, there are sublevels to it. His game shape will have dropped this week so his DMI went down. Game Shape has a much bigger effect to a player's DMI than one or two ups.



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204702.8 in reply to 204702.7
Date: 12/16/2011 9:10:49 AM
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Ok, I do think I played him a little too much this week, due to him banned from a match after 19 minutes on personal fouls.. think this will solve the issue though

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204702.9 in reply to 204702.8
Date: 12/16/2011 9:16:27 AM
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Actually it could be worse. 75 minutes is not that bad (it shouldn't be more though...). But in general, do you know how to manage your players' game shape?

I just ask because your team doesn't look too well in that area. 10 active players (I don't count the injured one) 5 of which have average game shape, 2 are respectable and 2 are strong. If you're doing well and you're not completely unlucky, the average should be around strong or a bit better.

Just looking at your biggest paycheck, Pekka Eriksson, he played 42 and 31 minutes in the league last week. Why did you have him play again in the scrimmage?

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204702.11 in reply to 204702.9
Date: 12/16/2011 9:57:40 AM
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Well, because my most promising trainee messed up his minutes this week and I figured that he shouldn't just play with backup players or this might affect his performance, and therefor his training, or am i thinking wrongly on that too?

Actually it could be worse. 75 minutes is not that bad (it shouldn't be more though...). But in general, do you know how to manage your players' game shape?


No I don't, I just play the 4 best (excluding training spot of PG) for both matches in the competition as starter, with other 5 as backup. PG spot I played trainee A play 1 match starter and 1 backup and reserve, player B 1 match starter 1 match backup and reserve, scrimage with player C as starter and A or B as backup and reserve if they needed the minutes. I did it like this because my 3rd PG was 31 yo and not trainable.. I will however since I now aquired a new trainee PG to 1 match for all as starter backup and reserve.

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204702.12 in reply to 204702.11
Date: 12/16/2011 10:17:44 AM
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Well, because my most promising trainee messed up his minutes this week and I figured that he shouldn't just play with backup players or this might affect his performance, and therefor his training, or am i thinking wrongly on that too?


Does his performance in a scrimmage really matter? I don't think so. And it's not or at least just very little influenced by his backup players.
The only thing that matters for his training is the amount of minutes he plays in a week on the training position(s), you don't need to pay attention to his in-game performance when it comes to training.


Actually it could be worse. 75 minutes is not that bad (it shouldn't be more though...). But in general, do you know how to manage your players' game shape?


No I don't, I just play the 4 best (excluding training spot of PG) for both matches in the competition as starter, with other 5 as backup. PG spot I played trainee A play 1 match starter and 1 backup and reserve, player B 1 match starter 1 match backup and reserve, scrimage with player C as starter and A or B as backup and reserve if they needed the minutes. I did it like this because my 3rd PG was 31 yo and not trainable.. I will however since I now aquired a new trainee PG to 1 match for all as starter backup and reserve.


If any of your players has played 60 minutes or more before the scrimmage, leave them at home (unless you need some minutes for training maybe). Any further minute will not help their game shape.
You may consider something I've done. I've bought myself a really bad player (600$ salary at the moment) so he can play in scrimmages if all other players have already collected enough minutes for that week.
Alternatively you can buy players from the TL for 1000$ to play in the scrimmage and fire them afterwards. This way, you avoid paying those bad players their salary but you can optimize your other players' game shapes.

Does this make sense?

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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204702.13 in reply to 204702.12
Date: 12/16/2011 10:51:08 AM
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If I do it like that, my "backup" players would only play their backup minutes from the competition.. doesn't that influence their GS then? I had players at an earlier point who maybe made 20-30minutes a week, but their GS dropped badly. I need those backup players as well in case 1 gets injured

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204702.14 in reply to 204702.13
Date: 12/16/2011 10:53:24 AM
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I didn't talk about players that only have 20-30 minutes in the first two matches.

If they have 30 minutes after the two league games, have them start in the scrimmage (but assign someone as backup and reserve). That'll give them 30-40 minutes more and they'll be perfectly fine.

If they have e.g. 20 minutes after the two league games, you can easily give them 48 minutes in the scrimmage so they'll be at 68 minutes for the week which is good.

For this kind of minute management you'll need to use "Strictly follow depth chart". Plus you may not take any players to the game that you haven't assigned a position to. Otherwise the minutes may get messed up.

Last edited by El Duderino at 12/16/2011 10:56:14 AM

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204702.15 in reply to 204702.14
Date: 12/16/2011 10:57:32 AM
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Pfew a hell lot confusing but I get your point. I just never looked at it this way because I thought overall game performance influences the training as well. So far he has popped every week, so I thought I was doing it well.. but i'll give your suggestion a go, after the AS week

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204702.16 in reply to 204702.11
Date: 12/16/2011 1:28:12 PM
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I normally try to do the same with my training but the SG that I am training has a tendency to foul out when he starts at PG and only when he starts at PG. A few games he fouled out after like 20-28 minutes and the coach put random players in at PG after that.

I am going to try to go the route of A A B with hopes that players A plays the entire game but if he does get fouled out then player B will be subbed in at PG instead of a random big man.

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