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From: B.B.King

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Date: 8/19/2012 8:01:13 PM
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What about NEW USERS. Do they know to expand, and to expand aggressively?
It's easy to write help guide for beginners in small countries with information about imprtance of arena. In big countries beginners have more problems, because expenses are the same in div I as in div V, whilst revenue is few times smaller.

Our TV contract was 189k
So it's good information because it means that salary floor will be smaller than 360k, only 340k.

I was building and I am not 100% sure on the speeds but at best I think you could build like 2000 bleachers in about 2 weeks....I remember spending every penny I ahd on arena expansions and it took me 4 seasons (about 56 weeks).
Arena as described in my previous post (20 / 300 / 1 450 / 14 500 = 16 270) will be built in 55 days, not 56 weeks. Only 55 days - it's very short period of time, because it's investment for whole game.

IF they add 10,000 bleachers, that will cost them TWO MILLION dollars
Two millions isn't big amount in first division. It's unimaginable amount in 5th division.

Will they set max prices etc.?
It isn't only micro nation problem. In big countries beginners don't know as well how to set prices to maximize incomes.

How do they feel about losing every game?
Losing? In big countries new teams lose as well, they have no chance to win match against vet teams.

Right now it is unintentional descrimination....
Now please count how many seasons is needed for beginners starting in 5th division in big countries to be competitive, and then we can start to talk about discrimination.

From: yodabig
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Date: 8/20/2012 2:00:38 AM
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One other thing that screws new teams is that even if they start in the JBBL they will have a tiny arena and with prices already fixed so it may take 1/3 of a season to see the big profits. They will have a bad roster and get smashed every game so their merchandise will be poor. Only the TV money will be good but if they make any attempt to compete as you would assume a new player would then that will be gone in a flash and they will earn nothing.

They join, get beaten by 50 every game, can't make money if they have a roster even half as good as the others they see aound them, so what would they possibly do except quit? I asked this before when I was the U21 manager in India, new teams should be started in division III so they can achieve some success and enjoy the game instead of being annihilated in the top league from day one. Better income does not make up for a depressing game experience.

From: B.B.King

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223673.11 in reply to 223673.8
Date: 8/20/2012 5:10:34 AM
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No, You are wrong. It's 55 days, it's simply calculation. To build arena we need:

[(1x Bleachers + 1,5x Lower Tier + 2,5x Courtside Seats + 4x Luxury Boxes + 5) / 250] days (rounded up to integer)

If arena is built gradually then of course we need more time, however in this case incomes in first season will be higher than mentioned in previous posts.

And 16 weeks without salary floor means 11 weeks with arena revenues only in worst case (when new team is created just before play-offs). In typical case it means 13 arena revenues. However, in these 3-5 weeks without arena revenues, new team in 1st division should have Typical Weekly Net Income = 150-200k. So if we consider all these facts it means that new team in 1st division should have more than 4M, not 3M after 16 weeks. And few wins with bots in cup should give few dollars more, and new team still can sell players and make extra money. I think even 5M is possible after 16 weeks.

an another note~ my motivation is to have domestic competition. I WANT new teams to be able to challenge me in games as quick as possible.

New teams in small nations are competive much faster than in big countries. In whole history in my country only teams created in 3rd season won 1st division. With Your knowledge and with team created in 12th season You would play in IV division in my country. Meanwhile in Your country You can play in B3 only because Japan is micronation.

From: B.B.King

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223673.13 in reply to 223673.12
Date: 8/20/2012 8:17:14 AM
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No, you are wrong. Prove me that nobody had 3M...
For me is enough that this possibility exists, and it's not my problem that most of managers don't exploit this possibility.

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