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235767.6 in reply to 235767.5
Date: 2/12/2013 11:11:20 PM
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SECONDARIES!
BALANCE!

When a guard has decent big skills (or vice-versa) he's salary efficient.
And when your player has his primaries at about the same place (ex: a big with 12/12/12 in IS/ID/RB) he'll cost less for performance than a player that costs the same, but has one superskill.
Play around with a salary estimator and you'll figure out what salary efficiency is all about. There's one at (http://www.buzzer-manager.com/en/accueil/)

Last edited by rhyminsimon at 2/12/2013 11:13:02 PM

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235767.7 in reply to 235767.5
Date: 2/12/2013 11:57:43 PM
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a simple enough example:

a 6'0" guy with 8's across the guard skills, or the top 6 skills....and 4's across his big skills (IS/ID/REB/SB) is going to cost you in the 7k salary range.

If you upgrade him to 10 primaries without moving the secondaries: 16k cost.
If you upgrade him to 7's in secondaries without moving primaries: 8k cost.

The same 12 skill points in secondaries cost you roughly $1000 per week, the 12 points distributed in primaries cost you 9k.

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235767.8 in reply to 235767.7
Date: 2/13/2013 12:13:51 AM
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Okay, also then, would the more efficient guy perform better or would the less efficient but better primaries guy perform better?

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235767.9 in reply to 235767.8
Date: 2/13/2013 12:23:23 AM
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I'll reference a comparison i made in a chat a few days ago. I found two guys in US D.IV league (yes, the same league, the same side of the conference even) with the following skills.

12/11/12 JS/DR/IS with 4 exp and 5 JR hit 52% from the field in his statline for the season thus far.

15/13/5 JS/DR/IS with 6 exp and 7 JR hit 39% from the field.

D.IV US is similarly ranked to you right now in D.III in canada. Whether or not the more efficient guy will always perform better is a bit up in the air. However, the more efficient guy will usually over the course of the season net you at least the same amount of wins with several thousands per week in savings.

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235767.10 in reply to 235767.9
Date: 2/13/2013 8:39:32 AM
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Oh I see, okay, it's making more sense to me now. Thanks!

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235767.11 in reply to 235767.8
Date: 2/13/2013 9:59:37 AM
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Okay, also then, would the more efficient guy perform better or would the less efficient but better primaries guy perform better?


The other thing is that often secondary skills, while not reflected in the team ratings, can be very effective. My personal experience was that even though I was playing with big men with less IS than was maybe typical in my time in IV in particular, because they all had good (7-8 range) handling and passing, they were not prone to turnovers and often one big man would dump it to the other for an easy inside shot. None of that would show up on the team's offensive flow rating, of course, nor does it really contribute to the inside offense rating, but picking up more easy buckets is never a bad thing. The other way to look at it is if you have atrocious handling and passing on a big man, he's likely to turn it over a few times a game against quality opponents. To make up those possessions, you'd either need to increase rebounding significantly to pull down an equivalent number of offensive boards or increase those ball skills to avoid the turnovers. Increasing rebounding on an already heavily-trained big man with bad guard skills is a painful thing salarywise, while the handling and passing are essentially free.

Of course, when you have a 22 year old donkey that's making upwards of 50k/week playing them out of position is also painful, which is why training secondaries early is a good idea.