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Date: 10/20/2014 9:38:28 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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I think the whole thing is ridiculous
The first season tv money was not a sign of things to come
No way Utopia Div II compares with any other in the world.
I have 2 players that were 18 year old Utopians on my first year team
They are trained but it is slow
There should be more payment for merch
Next week I will pay a hefty overextension tax
We don't have enough for NT players and there is no U21 team

We have been trained in our other teams to expect a financial jump upon promotion
with that has always come the buying of more expensive players
Now we find that doesn't work here

Cup money means a lot more here, perhaps it should be counted to determine OE Tax

Utopia indeed
Time to change the name
You may also find teams that don't re-up for another $10

Last edited by Headless T Gunner at 10/20/2014 9:49:31 PM

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Date: 10/20/2014 10:05:46 PM
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Its only an online game mate, time to move on i think....

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Date: 10/20/2014 10:24:12 PM
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They need to move this thread to the "Whiner line".

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Date: 10/21/2014 2:18:35 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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They are trained but it is slow


???

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Date: 10/21/2014 2:27:19 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Try to check the difference between the second division of a "normal" big nation.

Salary floor 200k
TV 140k
Merch 35k

The difference is that in my division we have an average salary of 400k, if you check these numbers utopia is still a paradise

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264269.11 in reply to 264269.7
Date: 10/21/2014 4:17:49 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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The economics that we learned about in other Div II don't match
My team needs a few more dollars and your solution is to stop playing the game?
Makes total sense, thanks for the advice

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Date: 10/21/2014 4:20:08 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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They are trained but it is slow


Both trainees did not start with a lot of skills

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Date: 10/21/2014 6:14:00 AM
white snake
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...the second division of a "normal" big nation.
...
Merch 35k
If that is true, I stand corrected. So it is only div I and div IV where merchandise is a real factor?

It also depends on your "homegrown" players. We had a manager in germany, he had almost only homegrwon players. During his best seasons, he had up to 120k merch in the second division (his average was around 90k).
My best result in the second division was 76k with two own draftees as my main scorers. They were the nr. 1 and nr.3 in the league in scoring.

For utopian teams, there are no real homegrown players yet. So the merch will stay low. BB punishes teams with a lot of foreign players. And because a lot of div. IV teams train utopian players, our merch from div. IV and your merch from div. II isn't that far away.

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Date: 10/21/2014 6:28:14 AM
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The economics that we learned about in other Div II don't match

In my current Div2, the salary floor is 175k, TV contract is 125k and merch is 33k (17k running deficit before staff and gates).

If I understand correctly in Utopia Div 2, those values are 151k, 108k, 24k (19k running deficit before staff and gates).

Seems rather close to me.

Edit: it also looks a lot better than promoting to D2 with a 8.5k arena when the majority of the teams have a 20k arena...

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/21/2014 6:56:49 AM

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