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Went back through and checked things, and there was an important development... I found cows super-star team was not a bot, but instead a new bot replacement team. So that spot is gone. However, a new bot was found, and thanks to Flash Mashers I was also able to look at what teams may go bot before processing (42 days before 2/15 should be 1/3 or 1/4).
So here is a refreshed look at spots and teams in the running:


Bot options:
Toronto Traptors (NBBA) - BOT... in RS, lost game 1
Marseillus (II.1) - has not logged in since 1/1... autorelegating
Teejhay (III.8) - BOT... in RS, lost game 1
The Annihilators (III.13) - has not logged in since 1/3... in RS and won game 1


So the autopromote spots for each tier could range from:
II 0-1 (looks like 0 so far)
III 1-2 (looks like 1 so far)
IV 1-4 (looks like 2 so far, but quite possibly only 1)
These are dependent on how the relegation series go, and whether those two users do log back in.
Of course, this all hopes that BuzzerBeater doesn't replace any of the bot teams with new teams, which they seem to maybe be doing more than in the past?


IV order:
1: 22-0 (+1389) Cyborgs {III.34} W
2: 22-0 (+1318) Houston Legends {III.39} W
3: 22-0 (+1269) Da Legends {III.9} W
4: 22-0 (+1267) Junkyard Dogs {III.46} W
5: 22-0 (+1067) Hardmoney Outlaws {III.57} W
6: 22-0 (+996) Curly Fries {III.31} W
7: 22-0 (+931) Red Bulls 1268 {III.24} W
8: 22-0 (+889) Arstotzka BC {III.54} W
9: 22-0 (+826) Bellevue Blackhawks {III.33} W
10: 22-0 (+807) Grand Ma Mas {III.16} W
11: 22-0 (+803) VB United {III.38} W
12: 22-0 (+800) Lay Down the Law {III.49} (2523 PF) W
13: 22-0 (+800) Rik Smits' Clogs {III.14} (2250 PF) W
14: 22-0 (+786) AU Tigers {III.52} L
15: 22-0 (+766) Suffolk {III.40} W
16: 22-0 (+756) Revolution 99 {III.35} W
17: 21-1 (+1142) The Disciples {III.47} W
18: 21-1 (+1106) Innovatus {III.13} W
19: 21-1 (+1092) Caerbannog Bunnies {III.5} W
20: 21-1 (+1061) Mad Kow {III.55} W
21: 21-1 (+1057) OKC Outlaws {III.53} W
22: 21-1 (+1043) The LA Lions {III.7} W
23: 21-1 (+1037) Connecticut Cresleys {III.1} W
24: 21-1 (+1030) Tallahassee Technicals {III.62} W
25: 21-1 (+997) The Wrath {III.23} W
26: 21-1 (+991) Delaware 87ers {III.12} W
27: 21-1 (+960) New York Chunks {III.32} W
28: 21-1 (+959) 2 left feet {III.42} W
29: 21-1* (+956) Lakeland Wolves {III.17} W
30: 21-1 (+954) Georgia Miners {III.57} W
31: 21-1 (+943) Long Island Pioneers {III.3} W
32: 21-1 (+936) Rockford Raptors {III.2} W
33: 21-1 (+928) RunninGuns {III.19} W
34: 21-1 (+920) New York Nuggets {III.50} W
35: 21-1 (+912) Peachtree City Shooting Stars {III.20} W
36: 21-1 (+893) U.K Nuggets {III.60} W
37: 21-1 (+872) Da Dawgs II {III.50} W
38: 21-1 (+869) Shrugging Shlubs {III.4} W
39: 21-1 (+863) Jungle Fever {III.15} W
40: 21-1 (+860) Hawaii Chopsaki {III.21} W
41: 21-1 (+853) Mof State Squizzes {III.64} W
42: 21-1 (+846) Cutters {III.37} W
43: 21-1 (+844) Dougs Fir {III.29} L
I still believe Lakeland falls to last amongst 1 loss because of the forfeit, but it may well not matter that low.


III rankings:
1: 22-0 (+754) Mars Aliens {III.14} W
2: 22-0 (+716) Chicken Hawks {III.6} W
3: 22-0 (+691) Ice Man {III.5} W
4: 22-0 (+614) Orlando Tragic {III.7} W
5: 21-1 (+698) Philadelphia Phantasm {III.4} W
6: 21-1 (+561) Illinois Riveters {III.8} W
7: 20-2 (+661) Work in Progress {III.12} W
8: 20-2 (+626) Pyramid of Success {III.9} W
9: 20-2 (+576) Lawrence Lancers {III.9} W
10: 20-2 (+568) Flashover {III.13} W
11: 20-2 (+525) Los Angeles Lords {III.11} W
12: 20-2 (+435) shm {III.8} W


And II rankings, in case Toronto wins:
1: 22-0 (+634) Cassville Yuck {III.3} W
2: 20-2 (+688) The Bullets {III.2} W
3: 20-2 (+576) Extra Crispy {III.1} W
4: 19-3 (+677) Milwaukee-Bucks {III.1} W

Ayyy this is better I made the list I like this more

Got the auto promote spot. Glad that I showed that I deserve being ranked 42 in the US even though i'm only a DIII team.

JF, I've either been around here too long, or there has been a glut of top players going down. I feel like I've rather familiar with at least 10 of the names on the list.

Not a good round for the IV bubble at all, while III teams took care of business.

First off, the IV autopromote spots shrunk by one team... as the team that was Teejay in III.8 got replaced Thursday... and then lost the RS anyways. So won't be a spot either way. (What a rough way to enter the game, though.)
So down to three possible spots for IV teams.
The NBBA team won to stay alive in their relegation series, but is looking to be well behind for game 3 based upon the first two game results. Their opponent basically threw game 2. So II autopromote looking quite unlikely.
And the II team in the relegation series also lost to send it to game 3, though they should be more competitive.

And to make matters worse, some more top IV teams fell.


Bot options left:
Toronto Traptors (NBBA) - BOT NOW... in RS, won game 2 at home, but not by a ton... opponent saved enthusiasm, didn't guess, and started backups
Marseillus (II.1) - still has not logged in since 1/1... autorelegating
The Annihilators (III.13) - still has not logged in since 1/3... in RS lost game 2 on road, opponent has gained enthusiasm in both games, and now started double guessing


IV order:
1: 22-0 (+1389) Cyborgs {III.34} W
2: 22-0 (+1318) Houston Legends {III.39} W
3: 22-0 (+1269) Da Legends {III.9} W
4: 22-0 (+1267) Junkyard Dogs {III.46} W
5: 22-0 (+1067) Hardmoney Outlaws {III.57} W
6: 22-0 (+996) Curly Fries {III.31} W
7: 22-0 (+931) Red Bulls 1268 {III.24} W
8: 22-0 (+889) Arstotzka BC {III.54} L (r2)
9: 22-0 (+826) Bellevue Blackhawks {III.33} W
10: 22-0 (+807) Grand Ma Mas {III.16} L (r2)
11: 22-0 (+803) VB United {III.38} W
12: 22-0 (+800) Lay Down the Law {III.49} (2523 PF) W
13: 22-0 (+800) Rik Smits' Clogs {III.14} (2250 PF) W
14: 22-0 (+786) AU Tigers {III.52} L (r1)

III rankings:
1: 22-0 (+754) Mars Aliens {III.14} W
2: 22-0 (+716) Chicken Hawks {III.6} W
3: 22-0 (+691) Ice Man {III.5} W
4: 22-0 (+614) Orlando Tragic {III.7} W
5: 21-1 (+698) Philadelphia Phantasm {III.4} W
6: 21-1 (+561) Illinois Riveters {III.8} W
7: 20-2 (+661) Work in Progress {III.12} W
8: 20-2 (+626) Pyramid of Success {III.9} W
9: 20-2 (+576) Lawrence Lancers {III.9} W
10: 20-2 (+568) Flashover {III.13} W
11: 20-2 (+525) Los Angeles Lords {III.11} W
12: 20-2 (+435) shm {III.8} L (r2) [2 seed]

And II rankings, though it's going to take a small miracle for Toronto to win probably:
1: 22-0 (+634) Cassville Yuck {III.3} W
2: 20-2 (+688) The Bullets {III.2} W
3: 20-2 (+576) Extra Crispy {III.1} L (r2)


Given that the game replaced one bot team, we certainly can't even be sure there will be any autopromote spots. Gotta hope the game doesn't take it upon itself to drop a new team in the top league!

To the finals!

Last edited by Shane Young at 2/7/2016 1:53:40 PM

Both final relegation games went poorly, with Traptors getting blown out, and Annhilators (III.12) losing a close one.
That means no II autopromotion... and down to at most 2 spots for IV teams.

Summary of the two teams to pay attention to:
Toronto Traptors (NBBA) - BOT demoting [1 spot for III+ if not replaced with a new team before season's end]
Marseillus (II.1) - still no login since 1/1... demoting [1 spot for IV+ if no login\early replacement]


IV order (max 2 autopromote slots):
1: 22-0 (+1389) Cyborgs {III.34} in finals, W game 1
2: 22-0 (+1318) Houston Legends {III.39} in finals, W game 1
3: 22-0 (+1269) Da Legends {III.9} in finals, W game 1
4: 22-0 (+1267) Junkyard Dogs {III.46} in finals, W game 1
5: 22-0 (+1067) Hardmoney Outlaws {III.57} in finals, LOST game 1
6: 22-0 (+996) Curly Fries {III.31} in finals, W game 1
7: 22-0 (+931) Red Bulls 1268 {III.24} in finals, W game 1
8: 22-0 (+889) Arstotzka BC {III.54} L (r2)
9: 22-0 (+826) Bellevue Blackhawks {III.33} in finals, LOST game 1
10: 22-0 (+807) Grand Ma Mas {III.16} L (r2)

III order (max 1 autopromote slot):
1: 22-0 (+754) Mars Aliens {III.14} in finals, game 1
2: 22-0 (+716) Chicken Hawks {III.6} in finals, W game 1
3: 22-0 (+691) Ice Man {III.5} in finals, W game 1
4: 22-0 (+614) Orlando Tragic {III.7} in finals, W game 1
5: 21-1 (+698) Philadelphia Phantasm {III.4} in finals, LOST game 1
6: 21-1 (+561) Illinois Riveters {III.8} in finals, W game 1
7: 20-2 (+661) Work in Progress {III.12} in finals, W game 1
8: 20-2 (+626) Pyramid of Success {III.9} in finals, W game 1
9: 20-2 (+576) Lawrence Lancers {III.9} in finals, LOST game 1

Last edited by Shane Young at 2/10/2016 4:29:23 PM

You put a lot of work into this. The forums could use ten guys like you. My hat is off.

Both final relegation games went poorly, with Traptors getting blown out, and Annhilators (III.12) losing a close one.
That means no II autopromotion... and down to at most 2 spots for IV teams.

Summary of the two teams to pay attention to:
Toronto Traptors (NBBA) - BOT demoting [1 spot for III+ if not replaced with a new team before season's end]
Marseillus (II.1) - still no login since 1/1... demoting [1 spot for IV+ if no login\early replacement]

A new player can not take over a team in the NBBA, only II or lower, so the Traptors' replacement won't stay in II that way.

So you are saying that spot will definitely remain available for autopromotion for III and IV then? Good to know for some folks :-)

I'm a little surprised a team can jump straight into II even... many teams have been around 20+ seasons trying to make it there. But glad to know that there's no NBBA shortcut. Thanks for your info!

I'm a little surprised a team can jump straight into II even... many teams have been around 20+ seasons trying to make it there. But glad to know that there's no NBBA shortcut. Thanks for your info!

Yeah, sometime late in the season a few seasons back Marin changed it so teams signing up have the option to choose high, medium or low level when they start; they never can start in I, but definitely they can in II (saw one come into II.4 when I was there).