Read again what the manual says and you will see it nowhere states or implies you will have 'a lot of turnovers' with low HA. It says you will have fewer turnovers due to losing the ball (to steals or bad passes only) it does not quantify or even give an indication of the amount of such reduction. I had a 1 HA/1 DR player in the past: this guy
(30952612) and he had 2 AST to 1.3 TO for his career (he had 6 or 7 PA). I started this guy even in the EBBL with his 80 TSP, figure that, and when I sold him people were shocked as they thought such a player should not perform that well against players with 30 or more TSP over him
(293441.16). Even in D1 for me he had more assists than turnovers and I played him both at PF and C. You can check his career stats for yourself
https://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/30952612/careerstats.a...Of course a PG will need more than 1 HA and 6 PA, but the conclusions from the case above should be valid in general adjusting for the amount of OD the players face.
Bad OD bigs are just bad and give free points that should never happen. Whether you think it's game breaking or not, when people look into how many close games they've lost, they'll figure that by fighting for all the inches, like taking these free points out of the equation, will lead to that extra yard that wins the game.
Bad OD bigs will have better primaries, because in most cases whoever trained them made a choice to train IS/ID/RB/SB over OD.
Now would you rather have a big man with 1 OD and 17 IS or a big man with 3 OD and 15 IS? Ultimately at the C position you 'need' next to no OD, it's just a nice to have in a club setting that does not cost extra salary and so it's usually worth pursuing if you don't have to sacrifice anything else. Most other Cs even in D1 have terrible JR and their JS is usually only driven by how much 1v1 and IS training has been done and therefore it may not be that high either.
A C with 11 JS and 3 JR may hit 30% of 3 pointers against a 1 or 2 OD defender WHEN he's actually defended, which given the OD, it won't be that many times anyway. So if a C averages 2 3 pointers per game (I'm being generous), you'd need to assess how many of those are open shots and how many are guarded. Let's say it's 50/50 guarded/unguarded and when guarded the 3FG% goes from 0.100 to 0.300, then the opponent's scoring improves by: 2*0.5*(0.300-0.100)*3=0.6 points per game. Is this relevant and worth having less primaries for?
If we're talking PFs then it's different, however PF defenders tend to have better OD as well, as you'd hide the lowest OD big man on the opponent C everything else being equal.
Last edited by Lemonshine at 5/19/2020 12:04:53 PM