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30704.6 in reply to 30704.5
Date: 5/18/2008 6:09:11 AM
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Date: 5/21/2008 4:51:46 PM
Molson Canadians
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Hi everyone,

I'd like to ask for someone to help out with the marketing in the Netherlands -- it's turning out to be pretty hard for me with the language barrier, and I could certainly use some help building this community.

In some other countries, we've appointed a Marketing Associate to help us draw more users into the game and draw in some more revenue -- they contact sites on our behalf, try to set up link and banner exchanges with other sites and communities, and look for other groups who would like to buy our ad space or become a sponsor of our game (for all users or just for the Netherlands).

This has turned out to be very successful in some cases, and we will gladly offer a commission for all banner sales (and perhaps even some financial compensation for bringing in users or Supporters to the game). if anyone is interested, please do let me know!

Thanks for your help. I've seen some very dedicated people in this community, and I would very much appreciate it if there is anyone (or a few people!) who are willing to help out directly.

Take care,
Mark

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Date: 5/22/2008 5:23:27 AM
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Hi Mark,

I am Rijswijker and NT Coach of NEDERLAND in BB. In real life I am a manager in a trading company and I am graduated in Marketing and Management. Having said this I thought I just give my two cents on this topic and give you a brief introduction of NEDERLAND:

NEDERLAND is soccer crazy. I believe many people here have watched the Champions League final yesterday seeing the dutch goal keeper block the decisive penalty. Being soccer crazy as we are; naturally soccer PC/ARCADE games are immensly popular.

The Online Soccer Manager has been mentioned before; of course HATTRICK is huge. Footbal Manager LIVE will be released soon. So drawing some attention from there can be useful. Of course you already have done Hattrick which is the truly MASTER move. Its sports; its management and free. It was very very unfortunate that exactly when the partners page was released at HT; the huge amount of traffic was not foreseen. I think that was a real oportunity missed. Our ducth community dropp from 500 to 300 range again. And my guess it will go down another 100.

But this topic was not meant for this but how to improve the community:

Sports forums: I dont know; if any.
Community forums like Facebook: www.hyves.nl and MSN LIVE.

Personally I believe it will be very challenging to attract more users (profit wise) from NEDERLAND. Basketball is not hugely popular as an activity; which is the opposite in your mentioned Lietuva or Latvia. Sports popular in Nederland: Football(soccer), Hockey, Tennis, All round skating. Much lesser community but about the same popularity ranking: basketball; volleyball; swimming; Judo.

I try to think of a media where BB can be introduced. But finding the correct target audience and media is pretty hard. Because as I mentioned earlier: basketball is not popular and you also need people who like PC management games. I hope some elses read this and may come up with a magazine or any other media which BB can be advertised.

www.hyves.nl and MSN LIVE attract the most PC users on a day in NEDERLAND but very few will be your target audience.

I would appoach similar web management sites(not only dutch users) and try to get attention there by banners: Hattrick, Planetarion; WOW; Conan and FOOTBALL MANAGER LIVE.

I would like to help out but do not feel fitted enough to apply for Marketing Associate. So this is a bit of nothing or something. I hope this helps you enlighten your view better.

See you guys on court,

Rijswijker

yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."
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Date: 5/22/2008 5:47:01 AM
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Hello,

I saw buzzerbeater for the first on the forum of real-life BB club. I don't if it's possible to maybe post some info about Buzzerbeater on sites of bb-clubs.

BGcc

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Date: 5/22/2008 11:10:59 AM
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I don't know if you are intrested in more users for Belgium too, but I do know a few Belgian basketball forums where you can advertise...

So maybe you can let me know anything about Belgium and the expansion of users?

Viva.

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Date: 5/23/2008 1:19:47 AM
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Thanks for the advice, Rijswijker! I'd certainly like to try talking with some of the Netherland forums and see if I can arrange a link, banner, or news post exchange.
Cheers!

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Date: 5/23/2008 1:21:49 AM
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Good idea -- do you know of any such sites?
Thanks!

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Date: 5/23/2008 1:22:39 AM
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Hey Viva,
I certainly won't turn down Belgian users :-) Just let me know what sites you know of, and we can start contacting them about exchanges.

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Date: 5/23/2008 7:46:47 AM
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OK, I'll make a list this weekend! ;-)

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Date: 9/6/2008 9:05:20 AM
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Hi BB-Mark,

Advertising at the site of the 'Nederlandse Basketball Bond' might be a good idea. 'Nederlandse Basketball Bond' means Dutch Basketball Federation.

The site of the main federation: http://nbb.basketball.nl/content.php , E-mail:unfortunately I haven't found a e-mailadress of the webmaster.

It might also be an idea to advertise at the 5 regional sites of the dutch basketball federation in the 5 different regions of the dutch basketball federation. Namely:

Region Noord Holland
http://www.dunk.nl/
E-mail: nbb-nh@dunk.nl

Region North
http://www.bbrayonnoord.nl/
E-mail: rayonnoord@basketball.nl

Region East
http://www.rayonoost.nl/
E-mail: info@rayonoost.nl

Region South
http://www2.basketball.nl/rayon/zuid/
E-mail: rayonzuid@basketball.nl

Region West
http://west.basketball.nl/site/index.php?id=28
E-mail: info@west.basketball.nl

But I haven't got a clue, how much people visit those sites, maybe somebody else here can tell you those things. I'm not at home in the Basketbalworld in the Netherlands, that's why I'd like other dutch guys to comment the idea.

Greetings,

Arsjitekt

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Date: 9/7/2008 6:02:41 AM
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That is a really good plan, but it's also a smart idea to post something about BB on the forums of the clubs, especially the big ones.
I got in touch with BB through such a forum and I'm playing at a small club.
Maybe this can work also.

The only thing is, I don't know if all the clubs have a forum.
I think that the idea of Arsjitekt is really good!

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