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32107.6 in reply to 32107.5
Date: 5/20/2008 3:21:56 PM
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well.

you do not get penalized if you stop selling players.
The thing bothering you is that the players you bought to be able to sell them with profit (as you where doing before) are not sellable with profit at this time, which is exactly what was intended, and announced. I can't see how you think you are penalized...

You say so yourself, if you keep doing what you did (which is what you do if you sell those players) you may get penalized. If you do not do what you where doing anymore (by not selling those players) you are not penalized.

Now tell me how you get penalized? You did not have to pay any fee on your previous sales I hope?

Ofcourse this new rule kicks in for each manager with a defferent impact, and I believe you can understand that there is no other way.
How would you suggest BB should have implemented it to be equally fair for all managers?

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32107.7 in reply to 32107.6
Date: 5/20/2008 3:55:23 PM
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Ah but the players on my team were not meant to be sold for a profit. I had 12 players on my roster for the playoffs, drafted 3 which leaves me with my current 15. I want to cut weight but wanted to see how some of the new rookies played before I did so which is why I didn't unload at an inconvenient time.

I would have suggested calculating the sales tax from the beginning of season 5 forward not, 14 weeks ago forward or whatever it was. This would ensure people only getting taxed for something against the rules and not getting taxed for something that was perfectly within the rules.

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32107.8 in reply to 32107.7
Date: 5/20/2008 5:29:00 PM
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well i have to admit the new taxes seems fair to me.
if i would sell one of my trainees i still get the low tax, only quick cash maybe does not work no more except you buy for 1k and sell for 100k then you still can make money on the market.
whatever most of the people wanted it that way so we have to adapt.

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32107.9 in reply to 32107.7
Date: 5/21/2008 3:39:26 AM
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I would have suggested calculating the sales tax from the beginning of season 5 forward not, 14 weeks ago forward or whatever it was. .

should they have done that, then daytraders could go on for another season... so this was no option...

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32107.10 in reply to 32107.2
Date: 5/21/2008 3:42:25 AM
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It was anounced in the news that this was going to happen, and everyone was given about a week time to sell players in the old system. If you desperatly wanted to cut your roster, you should have put them up for sale last week, making sure you asked a low-fair price to make sure they would be gone..


you getting 3-4 days for it not a week, and the other change with the fans was implemented earlier ... Also the bb wants us to sell with a right first bid, so i think this 4 days was a joke.

They should give at leat a half season before implemented changes who affect the long term planning, you have done with the running system.

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32107.11 in reply to 32107.9
Date: 5/21/2008 3:48:51 AM
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I would have suggested calculating the sales tax from the beginning of season 5 forward not, 14 weeks ago forward or whatever it was. .

should they have done that, then daytraders could go on for another season... so this was no option...


Sure it was an option, i doN#t see that they destroy the game anyway they get punish trought the fan system ... But it wasn't fair to punish people to rob a bank it robbing the bank was legal, after changing the system that robbing the bank is illegal.

I don't make huge profit, and expected that the changes beginn of the end of the season because of the last break of the text, and i thought this was the best oppurtunity. And i don't sell that much players that you could call me a day trader, but it still affects me and don't let me handly injuries etc. as good as before.

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32107.12 in reply to 32107.11
Date: 5/21/2008 8:44:14 AM
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And i don't sell that much players that you could call me a day trader

daytrading is not determined by the amount of players you sell.
Daytrading is buying a player, and then selling him for profit, without training him.
Skilltrading is buying players, training them up 1 skill, and selling them again.

Both will feel the effects of the new ruling here, ofcourse a daytrader is able to make many many more trades than the other since he is not depending on any training. It is exactly this limitlessness (is this a correct word?) that BB wanted to end.

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32107.13 in reply to 32107.12
Date: 5/21/2008 8:50:34 AM
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But why they can't doo that so, that they don't punish guys for doing normal stuff ...

And such a system like the one they implements now, should havea planning time from the BB AND the user who are affected by that.

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32107.14 in reply to 32107.13
Date: 5/21/2008 9:33:23 AM
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because there is no way to draw a well defined line between normal and not normal

is selling a player who is say 24 years old and doesn't train as fast as a 18 year old normal?


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32107.15 in reply to 32107.14
Date: 5/21/2008 9:35:43 AM
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i think yes, and whats that comparison about? Did they change the training spped from 24 old, so that they train as fast as 18 year old this season?

No i don't think so, but if theey do so they should announce it before so that you could buy a 23 old player which could get a training space at your team when the changes appear(so that their market value not dramatically increase over night)

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32107.16 in reply to 32107.12
Date: 5/21/2008 10:46:56 AM
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Daytrading, I still believe, was good for the market and based on simple economic principals. With daytrading you had an abundance of good players available that could fill a need. You paid market price or you did not accept the inflated price they asked for.

But the point isn't which is which and which is wrong, the point is you should only calculate the penalty from the improper acts which only became improper last week. You can calculate from that point onward with an accelerated hit in the early weeks and a more gradual hit in the following weeks. Example: if you traded an average of 5 people or more per week you get hit and this begins in week 1 and extends so that in week 1 it will calculate only based on week 1 but in say week 5 it will calculate based on weeks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

I don't see the issue with that. It is the logical wa to do it.

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