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61417.6 in reply to 61417.5
Date: 4/13/2009 3:31:57 PM
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Under 19 ALL STAR GAME period updating...

Guards:

1) A. Kostis (6895171) of Falanga BK -> Best shooter and interesting defender. He passes, he scores he's one of our better prospect as point guard thanks to dedulia

2) M. Kopanidis (6895181) of Gold Towers -> he's a good and complete player, but he's injured! I hope he will return as soon as possible

3) Y. Varozis (7398399) of Manresa fs -> 5 weeks without updating... Ronnie where are you?! I hope he will steadily increase, but I have any mark

4) S. Grekidis (6924268) of Istra Pula -> veceo is doing an interesting job with Grekidis that was at draft season 7 the best guard of Cyprus. Finally is trained as he should and we have a player..

5) N. Poulakis (7757368) of B. At. Almogàvers -> Could we have a point guard? if -cesc10- wants, yes we could! He's not a long range shooter, but I trust on his user

Small Forwards:

1) M. Papanogiotou (6895175) of Cyprus Fighters -> trained as inside player could became the most complete small forward of Cyprus with good defenses and skills. He surely needs of "dwarf" training after this year.

2) I. Kalpadakis (6892181) of Cruellords -> he WAS the best small forward and I think he IS still now. I don't receive updating by CruelLord from many weeks, I just only hope he's continuing on training him.

3) A. Tsigas (6924295) of BC teammate -> great shooter, he's growing up as defendere as well. I hope he should be an interesting small forward on fast offensive plays.

4) T. Galatis (6895183) of Atletico F.B. -> ok, ok, he's a new entry, I know, but this user, Fra87 is doing a great job on him and he doesn't want to stop on popping-up

5) M. Eftaras (6892196) of Gold Towers -> the small forward of the future. I think and hope he would be the greatest Cyprus player in this position.

Inside Players:

1) N. Pikoulas (6924283) of Board Room -> what I have to say about Pikoulas? He's my son! The first player I let free of my 2 years Cyprus mandate. He's growing up as a perfect player for Cyprus future.

2) Y. Kaliasis (7529531) of JoYo -> Thanks to GM-AlexRepetti, u21 Italy NT Manager, he's growing up very well! We always hope on a pop-up on ID, but he's growing as an offensive weapon for Cyprus nation

3) I. Kraidis (6924314) of San Osnofa Spurs -> Well.. he's not on u21 National Team for the moment, but he will surely be next year! Incredible defender and great athlete

4) S. Vidas (7429800) of Celtic Milano -> he's not so tall, but there are many centers that are pretty good, may be not in NBA, but here we have a good player for the future of u21 National Team, I think!

5) Y. Dontas (7589199) of I Mucchi -> he's the taller sosia of Vidas. I expect a lot from him during the second part of this season.

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61417.7 in reply to 61417.6
Date: 4/14/2009 1:12:29 PM
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I am thinking what to do with Papanagiotou again and again and again and i cant decide. I have as you know an other 3 at least very good prospects at big positions so i cant stop train them and start training Papanagiotou as SG. He needs 3 pop ups on outside D, 1 or 2 pop ups on shooting and 1-2 on range to be complete SF.

1 option is to sell him but that 1 who will buy him will train his outside skills? he is already good enough for a lot of teams as a PF, so maybe they will use him as that.

An other option is to split my training, train my trainable players at JS(always helpful for any player) and then sacrifice 3-4 weeks to train Papanagiotou some outside skills.

As you u know (steve and fabio) i am looking for a SG or SF. From what ive seen very few SF's have it all. Some of them are SG's converted to SF's and some are PF's converted to SF's. I can really see Papanagiotou be the perfect SF on ''look inside'' system.

The ideal for me is to sell him to some1 who train wing players and the ideal for me is to find a young player that has very good outside skills and train him on the big positions. Grr I really dont know what to do. I want to win, but i want to help the NT too

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61417.8 in reply to 61417.6
Date: 4/14/2009 1:16:47 PM
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1) N. Pikoulas (6924283) of Board Room -> what I have to say about Pikoulas? He's my son!


Then you must be my wife!

From: Pallu

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61417.9 in reply to 61417.7
Date: 4/14/2009 1:24:58 PM
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I want to win, but i want to help the NT too


Excellent post. I think it is very important for the NT that players are sometimes devellopped by more than one team. This is especially true for Small Forwards but relevant for many positions and players.

This is one among many reasons why a "living" national forum is of importance for the NT (NT Team Manager motivation is another...). A national BB Forum offers the best chances to find the next coach.

I can e.g. offer (to try) to train talented players in inside skills (genuine inside players or outside players). But I of course need to plan this in advance, organize cash, etc...
Others might be in a similar position.

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61417.10 in reply to 61417.9
Date: 4/23/2009 6:35:35 PM
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Lets go Kraidis x)

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61417.11 in reply to 61417.10
Date: 5/27/2009 9:20:52 AM
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End season update for 19 years old players! Could be that some one will be erased from data base, but I'lll write it on the National Forum and coach will be mailed by me if I will still be Cyprus NT Manager next 2 seasons...

Guards:

1) A. Kostis (6895171) of Falanga BK -> He's improving, he's the best only for 1 or 2 points in the right skills, but overall is worse than Kopanidis! Thanks Dedulia he's the best Shooter between 19 y.o. players

2) M. Kopanidis (6895181) of Gold Towers -> He was injured 2 weeks, but he's the best overall skill player between 19 y.o.

3) Y. Varozis (7398399) of Corbetta Rangers -> 10 weeks without updating... Then I discover that Varozis was sold to an italian user and nobody tell me what the hell they are doing!!! I will check the player soon

4) A. Stamatopoulos (7856361) of Juurikas -> Well... I personally didn't expect me this player at this level, but he's good and he's improving pretty well and balanced!

5) N. Poulakis (7757368) of B. At. Almogàvers -> I expect more pop-ups by him, but he was injured, some training problems... next year should be his year!!!

Small Forwards:

1) M. Papanogiotou (6895175) of Gold Towers -> We have found the "dwarf" trainer for him... and now we expect a Small Forward... or better... THE small Forward

2) I. Kalpadakis (6892181) of Cruellords -> Cru is busy, but training I think is setted by the right way. I hope he's still increasing his inside skills

3) A. Tsigas (6924295) of BC teammate -> great shooter, he's growing up as defendere as well. I hope he should be an interesting small forward on fast offensive plays.

4) T. Galatis (6895183) of Atletico F.B. -> He's not so good... but I really appreciati Fra's work on him! Now it's time to a lot of JS!

5) M. Eftaras (6892196) of Gold Towers -> I always hope... but... he pop-ups only once a month!!!! C'mon man!!!

Inside Players:

1) N. Pikoulas (6924283) of Board Room -> Stop as inside player? Could he become an inside Small Forward? Pallu is a magician... we will see!

2) Y. Kaliasis (7529531) of JoYo -> Always waiting for some pop-ups on ID "the italian-cypriot swan" is stepping-up every week (10 pop-ups this year!)

3) I. Kraidis (6924314) of San Osnofa Spurs -> U 21 reached! For the "new Kaikas" a low REB level that I hope Osnofa will train next year.

4) Y. Dontas (7589199) of I Mucchi -> ...I expect and I see! Best 19 y.o. rebounder of Cyprus on one of the best five rebounder of the country. Step up to 10 (at least) his ID level and we have a new Big Men Armada!

5) Z. Tsakalidis (8238516) of LOrigine Perduta -> He passes over Vidas and I think he could be an important player for u21... Senior team wil be difficult to reach with these towers...



Last edited by Steve Makis™ at 5/27/2009 9:29:46 AM

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61417.12 in reply to 61417.11
Date: 5/27/2009 7:43:57 PM
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3 players in this list! It's good for me!

Thanks to JohnnyB. Papanogiotou is incredible and he will be better.

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61417.13 in reply to 61417.11
Date: 5/28/2009 5:04:55 AM
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this season I hope in a close fight for Small forward position, between Papanagioutou and Kalpadakis, with the unpredictable outsider Pikoulas, this bunch of guys indeed represent a nice group of Bigs meanwhile their guards are a little bit behind

From: Pallu

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61417.14 in reply to 61417.13
Date: 5/28/2009 5:30:27 PM
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The new training scheme for Pikoulas is a pain on the short term - he will be an extraordinary player after 1 1/2 seasons from now.

For the meantime I understand he is not first choice.

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61417.15 in reply to 61417.14
Date: 5/28/2009 5:38:37 PM
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well... as PF/C he will be first choice as well :-)

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61417.16 in reply to 61417.15
Date: 5/28/2009 8:07:01 PM
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Hopefully only for some more training updates of the high-potential young followers. Cyprus now really has a chance to build up a strong team, there is a lot of good new players.

Pikoulas has not even nearly had perfect conditions, today's 18y. old NT candidates can make it much better.

Let me explain this, maybe it is useful to motivate some managers:

1) Pikoulas received his first training ever after the second full week of season 7. That means he missed 3 possible trainings after he was drafted.

2) His starting wage was fourthousand and something (>4.000€), I forgot the exact sum. That means that he was not exceptionally gifted. Good, very good, but there are Draft Players above 6.000€.

3) He received only very few single trainings (Center only), most of the time the Coach payed attention to the respective PFs as well.

Start with a 6k Inside player, train him consequently (every now and then a single training) and you will produce the future star of Cyprus. Go for it!


A special issue:
4) Last not least he is limited by All-Star Potential (~50k wage). This is one of the main reasons I am going the hard way to make him a PF -> SF, he can receive many more trainings this way. His wage will be around 25k by the season update. Six more Inside Skill Updates and he will likely hit the soft cap. Going for SF he can have ~20 skillups without doing so (old man by then...).

1) to 3) are quite evident. Personally, I regard issue 4) to be one key of future BB strategies, maybe not quite so important for NT Centers...

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