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Who exactly is the problem player from the bunch?

Quisquo had his previous pop in handling in 12 secondary + 1 full training. Why is it surprising that he didn't pop from 3 secondary + 2 full trainings?

This boils down to 1 full training being equal to at least 9 secondary trainings, which is pretty much par for the course.

Also, note that last September it took Quisquo 1 full and 7 secondary training to pop 1 level of handling, and he was, what, 2 years younger?

Spagnolo is pretty much exactly the same story, so having exactly the same result is not that surprising.

Pekovic obviously doesn't factor into the equation, since he can't really pop from 1 training.

All in all, an interesting coincidence, but I this certainly is not conclusive evidence of a training bug.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 4/21/2009 5:02:01 PM

Quisquo HD: 7 + 1, 12 + 1, 3 + 2 no pop (I suggest he had some training after his second pop, since he needed 12 + 1 instead of 7 +1).

Quisquo DR: 5 + 1, 9 + 1, 3 + 2 no pop (some as above).

Pekovic HD: 7 (?) + 1, 4 + 1 (so the training in HD is more than AT LEAST 3 secondary training), 9 + 2, 3 + 1 no pop (some as above, he SURELY was HIGH in HD last pop 'cause he popped in 4+1, than in 9+2!!!).

Pekovic DR: 8 (?) + 2, 11 + 0 (!!!), 4 + 3 no pop! (this is AMAZING, we know from above that the trining is AT LEAST 3 secondary, he popped in 11+0, 4+3 without pops is impossible!).

Spagnolo HD: 6 (?) + 0, 2 + 2, 12 + 1 (so 1 full training is similar to 9 secondary), 3 + 2 no pop (this is the case because in the first post I said I expected only 4 sure 100% and not 6, anyway...).

Spagnolo DR: 6 + 2, 12 + 0, 3 + 3 no pop (same as above for Spagnolo, firstly because he had only 27 minutes of training).

so I expected 2 pops for Quisquo and for Pekovic, and for Spagnolo from 0 to 2, with 0 low chance :(

Pekovic DR: 8 (?) + 2, 11 + 0 (!!!), 4 + 3 no pop! (this is AMAZING, we know from above that the trining is AT LEAST 3 secondary, he popped in 11+0, 4+3 without pops is impossible!).

Unless I am missing something, your previous post indicated that Pekovic has had only JS and Ball Control training after his last DR pop (to strong), and neither of these two trains DR as a primary skill.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 4/22/2009 12:43:39 PM

with ball control DR is trained by 80%, so we can consider that as a primary training.

anyway try to explain EVERYTHING please, maybe I am wrong, this is surely possible, but I don't think so, so I opened thi discussion :)

thank you for your answer :)

anyway I already knew all this several factors, but trying to analyse that another time:

1) HD and DR are not so high compared to the other skills, and especially for Pekovic and Spagnolo. Pekovic reached 13 in JS without any problems and Spagnolo 16 !!!

2) full potential can be, I cannot be sure of course, but they all popped as I thought until now, so I guess it is pretty hard that 3 players reached the potential at the same time, with different skills :)

3) surely it can be, but I already included age in my calculations.

the only reasonable reason (:p) that I can find is that they are all sooooo high in both skills, so I will have 6 pops whenever I'll train something like jump shot or jump range or similar...but I still think that there is something wrong :)

Last edited by Verrinho at 4/28/2009 4:51:48 PM