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Had nothing to do so I gave this idea a run through. Our GMs are right, improper implementation will see this become cheat central. The main objective clubs loan out their players is to gain experience, we'll keep this in mind and try to limit avenues where cheats can exploit.

Club A wants to loan out their player.
Club B wants to loan Club A's player.

Club A still pays the full salary of the player, Club B pays half
To get something, you have to sacrifice something. We don't want a scenario where a club starts collecting players and loans them out so as not to incur the salary expenses while building a monster roster. The half salary paid by Club B flows out of the system.

Only one loan player per club
Clubs are only allowed to loan one player, we don't want teams blazing to the title on 5 loaned players.

Players on loan do not receive training
This one is obvious enough.

Teams in the top divisions and Cup winners are barred from loaning players
No cheap ways to go for B3 glory. And that means no top club can loan that 300k monster from that farm team.

Players are loaned for the full season
You cannot loan to another team for 2-3 matches. Loans are arranged for a full season.

Loans only apply to lower divisions in the same country
Teams can only loan out players to lower league teams within the same country. This is to address the discrepencies within the quality of the divisions within each country.

Players cannot be sold while on loan
Players cannot be sold or recalled during the loan period. In the event a team turns bot, the player in question will return to the original team.

Last edited by Sparkle at 6/27/2009 10:12:41 AM

Useless idea if you have to make it so complicated. If an idea cant be implemented easily its not worth to think about it.

I'd rather go for a farm team for every account, where you can put the trainees or other players. Maybe something like an U21-version of the main team or so.

But lending a player you cannot train is a bad idea as you have to replace the vacant position every season.

Not allowing the player to be trained on loan is essential to block off teams from buying loads of trainees and creating farm teams to train them. Being complicated does not necessarily make an idea useless, it is what that idea is trying to achieve.

A farm team for every account brings way more negatives than positives. Teams will be able to train more trainees, and quite suddenly we will see a jump in the supply of trained players while the demand doesn't move. Prices will the drop the market will crash. Gameplay wise, it's an additional option. Economically, bad move.

There are basically 2 ways to approach the Suggestions forum. One of to dissect the idea and explain why the idea will not work out. The second is to think of instances which will make it work. There are enough users doing the first, and I find the second a rewarding mental workout for me. :)

Back to expanding the points above.

Last edited by Sparkle at 6/27/2009 10:15:23 AM

why not using the transfer market, instead of making a second one with hundreds of special rules?

If you like to have a player keep him.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 6/27/2009 10:25:37 AM

Well, the goal of a loan is if you have a player which you want to have a player increase in experience but no space to play him regularly or you want to help a friend in the lower leagues. The transfer list doesn't allow a 'buy back' option, and even if you made an arrangement by the time you buy him back, TPE might have fallen so far it gets you in trouble with the GMs.

I think I shall leave this to the original poster to explain his objectives.

i mean keep it or sell him and buy a similiar maybe with more experience., and the reason to help players is also cheating if you do it in a material way.

Especially is i a bit creapy when i look at your top team rule ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 6/27/2009 10:43:05 AM

For smaller countries, the player might be a local player which you will find hard to replace. The manager of the smaller team is paying half the player's salary so it isn't exactly free help, it comes at a price in which he will also have to survive the following season without the player on loan.

Top team rule is necessary, we don't want farm teams of 300k monsters to loan these players to the top divisions for certain teams to rule now do we? Imagine BC Tooroo losing to a team with 5 monster loan players, it wouldn't be fair. :)


Darnit...I still have some free time. I think I'll start hunting for more suggestions to expand on.

For smaller countries, the player might be a local player which you will find hard to replace.

so your scenario was, you have a player which is hard to replace, you can not play in your team but in a season with 1/3-1/2 level of Xp he is an unreplace able player in your team, where you can not find a decent replacement within a season. Is this summary correct?

The manager of the smaller team is paying half the player's salary so it isn't exactly free help, it comes at a price in which he will also have to survive the following season without the player on loan.

Taff price, he gets a superior player for free, paying just the half of the salary and playing on a higher level just through his connections to other managers ... But in the next season he had to play on the level of other clubs, who don't have friends with players like above to overpower their teams.

Ok the additional 20% of income through the more succcesfull games with homecourt which you ahd to miss next season is hard to, i can not believe that they could use that to.

Top team rule is necessary, we don't want farm teams of 300k monsters to loan these players to the top divisions for certain teams to rule now do we?

Why you should farm foir them? I am a farm, i doN't give the player to another club who can not train them, and if i don't train them i could use him on my team.

So why is it in top teams cheating and with weak teams fair advantage, where he had to live with a just little stronger team next season as an disadvantage.

I see that ittotaly unfair^^

It's a little difficult for me to catch the drift of your post so I'll try my best.

Your summary is a little off. I have a player which I want to keep but know he won't be seeing too much playing time this season, and I'm willing to bite the bullet and keep on paying his salary while he plays for a lower league team.

2. By only allowing lower division teams to loan players, your 'superior' player is not a foolproof plan. And not all of my suggestions are set in stone, just what I think it would take for such an idea to work instead of dismissing it outright. We could also set it so that the team taking on the loan player pays the full salary. You better be successful in overpowering the opposition, because your economy is going to take a hit. The bigger the player, the bigger economic hit you will take. And if you promote and that player goes back next season, good luck surviving relegation. It still takes planning.

3. You cannot see why you would loan out your player to top teams. That doesn't mean the other 50k managers in the game won't. Your elaboration is pretty vague, you lost me by the second sentence. Anyhow, there is no reason for the teams in the top league to take in loan players. I have already explained why there is a necessity to prevent top teams from taking loan players. All avenues of possible abuse have to be explored.

just what I think it would take for such an idea to work instead of dismissing it outright

just giv eme the point why you need it, and can not make this with buying and selling and that must not be different players. So why is that necessary, and will improve the game.

We could also set it so that the team taking on the loan player pays the full salar.
You better be successful in overpowering the opposition, because your economy is going to take a hit. The bigger the player, the bigger economic hit you will take.

it isn't just the salary, it is also the ability to get extra quality for free through connections. Which also generates extra money.

And is it no disadvantage to be stronger then you are for a season, even if you fall back after it ;) It is a clear advance if you don't have to do anything for it.

3. There is also no reason to loan players for medium teams.

just giv eme the point why you need it, and can not make this with buying and selling and that must not be different players. So why is that necessary, and will improve the game.

Ah, for that you will need to ask the initial poster. I am merely providing the conditions that are required for his idea to work.