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1) A single, and not a representative example for your TH, does not prove anything close to what you are claiming. Just the opposite.

2) If you and the rest of DIV-1 teams are so miserable and poor, like the false picture you are trying to draw, how does your league consist of a single user who joined later than season-4, and even he joined only a single season afterwards (and probably will be delegated at the end of this year).

3) All this explains (at least in my eyes) why you are supporting the current auction system and how much what you have written sounds (at least to me) as a lie that hides the real true that it assists you as a day-trader.

4) All this explains (at least to me) why you don't "see" how the assets are being piled up, and the game has a competitiveness problem due to that.
A fact that can easily be observed at your own BB-nation.

i believe we are pretty far from the topic right now, so let us stop this here.(also since we reach a dead point too)

3) All this explains (at least in my eyes) why you are supporting the current auction system and how much what you have written sounds (at least to me) as a lie that hides the real true that it assists you as a day-trader.

day-trading is not that often in Buzzerbeater as you think. it's actually far less than on other fantasy games.

no ofence but i really feel like you should learn to be a better game colleague and not blame the fact that you are in lower league on the game faults.



learn to take and work with what you have. have fun with your team and against the guys from your league. first beat them then worry about higher leagues.

Day-trading is an extreme feature for higher leagues.

You can see that by looking at CrazyEye way of playing.
He only done that twice (upon what he had written), but he does not train a single player he drafted which is younger than 21 (and much higher than that age).

Regarding the competitiveness on this game - you need to read the input I've brought, and then to respond upon that.
Believe me it is quite clear from the facts brought what is going on at this game.

Regarding my "frustration";
You are wrong at your observation.
In my first full season I had been promoted to the next league (won my way to the next league, and not got that due to someone leaving the game).
At my second season I've passed the relegation round and kept my seat.
On current third season I am about to get to promoted once again to the next division (second division).
I may fail doing that this season, but things currently seems very good.
So, there is no reason for any frustration from my side.

I am just aware of the facts (that it seems you did not read them), and they are pointing to that the game as competitiveness problems.

Regarding blaming and attacking - you first need to get familiar with the material of those users and behavior to undestand that I'm just on the reacting side.
And besides, they are posing a stand that is biased (as far as I believe).

Day-trading is an extreme feature for higher leagues.

You can see that by looking at CrazyEye way of playing.

He only done that twice (upon what he had written), but he does not train a single player he drafted which is younger than 21 (and much higher than that age).

is not really the matter of an d-league option, and really don't like to called that even when i see you use another definition. And reduce it to one, since the other got trained quite succesful.

PS: I am happy with my older trainee, and the one i started training from the stretch who just get finished those seasons. And even when i get a great draft pick i would train him behind the age, since i need the players like that.

Day-trading is an extreme feature for higher leagues.

I don't understand this line. If you imply daytrading is very common in higher leagues, you are wrong. That is generally not the case, although you may be able to find examples and it may be common in some countries. If you are saying that when done successfully, daytrading is a tool to help you get to higher leagues and succeed there, then I can obviously agree.

Thanks for trying to keep this on topic! :)

to all else, lets keep posts relvent to the D-league suggestion, and any arguments/suggestions/comments, please relate back to how your comment will help/prevent D-league and its proposed implementation.

otherwise, im glad to see there is still interest in this idea.

Someone posted about a hattrick game... does this have a D-league feature? if so, can this be explained or explained perhaps why it specifically doesn't, and how it is similar to here. Thanks peeps!

from what i recall (haven't played in two years), in htt you had the option to have an academy for younger talents.

you controlled the team of the academy and you needed to add it to private academy leagues.

the players from the academy were entirely separate from the active roster. the only way to get them was to sign them permanently to the big league.

however, this system in htt was the only way that younger players got in the game. no draft is available. this is basically the same way younger players get in big soccer clubs. there is no drafting in soccer, at least outside US. i don't know in the us system

from what i recall (haven't played in two years), in htt you had the option to have an academy for younger talents.

you controlled the team of the academy and you needed to add it to private academy leagues.

the players from the academy were entirely separate from the active roster. the only way to get them was to sign them permanently to the big league.

however, this system in htt was the only way that younger players got in the game. no draft is available. this is basically the same way younger players get in big soccer clubs. there is no drafting in soccer, at least outside US. i don't know in the us system

personally i would prefer such a system, and it would be a bit D-league like since you could wait a bit longer to promote then to your first team.
If it really the target of a BB manager to train the self drafted talent, it had several advantages:

- you could impact how your future star looks like, and build him withhim your need. Even when you are still talent driven, is your youth squad star a 2.20 Center you couldn't make him a Guard.

- it fit better in the league structure, the draft is designed to let the bottom teams catch in the NBA but here it gives the team who relegates something like an head start.*

- also it makes it possible to get the top talent also to the top teams.*

* as pini would mention here right this is also to mine advantage, so properly totally pointless even when it is reasonable


For the realism freaks, this system also exist in the most pro club of the world ;)

I´d take a talent academy system over the draft in a heartbeat.

Honestly I am not a fan of the D-League idea. While it is a good idea I think that it causes some issues with the balance of this game that makes it great. While having to specialize your training on a few players may be a little bit of a hassle it truly is what makes this game run the way that it does. Having to manage training minutes and gameshape and determining the opportunity cost of making one decision over another is what works here.

Adding a D-league will create a situation where people can train prospects while making runs at the cup and also making a run to win their leagues. This will significantly hurt the lower Division teams because one of the easiest ways for a lower team to generate some good income early is to train young players and sell them to higher teams. Once the D1 and D2 teams have the opportunity for high level training without sacrificing some minutes from better players I think a larger gap between the "haves" and "have nots" will be created.

This game has a very delicate economy with money as well as minutes and training and significant changes could throw the whole thing off balance.

I understand the suggestion though, because at times i wish I could do everything 100% all of the time but I do not think it is beneficial to the game in the end.