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Look Inside tactic STILL far too dominant!

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From: Calum

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Date: 7/29/2013 8:02:30 PM
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I appreciate Silverbacks efforts but in the end his team always loses in the knockouts to some typical LI monster.


Erm... Season 22 anyone? http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/1/overview.aspx?season... He also only lost last season due to a huge influence from the 'randomness factor'.

I like to think of it like The Force. LI is the dark side, anything else is the light. There may be a 'simpler' route to power with LI, but (mostly, after the new changes) the dark and light are equal. Slowly and surely I'm being tempted towards the light....

From: brian

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Date: 7/29/2013 8:22:28 PM
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Plus they have a couple cup wins as well. If anything, the fact that SM has won anything without the benefit of specialty outside based players is pretty amazing. I would expect at outside based team to really struggle cause you pretty much have to build every player on your team since the TL is sorely lacking good options. This can't be overstated enough. It can take a good specialty cross-trained player until their 26yo+ to be complete, then you have to go build everything else!

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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Date: 7/29/2013 8:38:47 PM
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Ive reference SM's team quite a bit in these discussions, for instance (241131.45)

Outside built teams are getting more focus from BB, many top managers are looking this way. If you can start building the players now there will be a growing market of teams doing the same. Very interested in seeing the battle of LI vs RNG/Motion in 5+ seasons.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
From: Coolbobj

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Date: 7/29/2013 9:08:10 PM
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True, that is an amazing accomplishment but we need more guys like SM to do things in the B3 to restore balance to this game.

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Date: 7/29/2013 11:18:13 PM
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Can't be done yet at the B3 or NT level yet in my opinion because there just aren't enough outside players trained to that level(for NT at least, B3 is possible but it'd be extremely difficult).

As English NT coach I believe we have one guard in our entire depth chart who I would say is equal to what we consider a dime a dozen inside scorer, and I'm sure this is the case with many other NTs as well.

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Date: 7/30/2013 12:34:23 AM
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That's true. I think making JR more affordable would help training more high caliber outside scorers.

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Date: 7/30/2013 7:08:16 AM
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Clearly my comment about people not commenting on SM's posts, was based solely on this thread, thus the injustice towards you and probably other users participating in the discussion.
My apologies to you and eveybody else.

The market issue is making things harder indeed. This is because people trained and keep on training LI fitting players. This in turn is because thats the "right" way they've been told since entering the game.
But here we have a big contrast. The majority of users, start the game playing outside focused offenses.
For a 5 league nation for instance, its IV and V are full with such teams, to an estimate of +80%.
Even if such a user reaches III after lets say 5 seasons, slowly training and building his team, he gets to the point that he realises that he's no match to a mediocre LI team and that his own trained players, if anything, are more suited to playing LI from this level onwards.

There is a need to inform people, not that they can play outside offenses too( many already do), but primarily how to do it correctly.
I would love having a credible thread in my national forum, where it states how to set up such teams, how to run them and most importantly what kind of players i (roughly)need and how to train them.

Look inside is so far ahead, that credibility is key to this, in order to work. I would suggest, top dogs playing perimeter offenses, from around the world, opening a thread and discussing how they do it(or used to do it). Exchanging data, experiences, set up configurations, players' skillsets, training courses etc

Make all the common conclusions one big post and there are many enthousiasts around to forward this to their national forums(with translations if needed) and promote it.

No change of this magnitude can take place without the involvement of the base. No participation of the base can take place without the involvement and guidance of good experienced managers.






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Date: 7/30/2013 12:31:44 PM
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Why should everyone aim for a competition that you need to take extreme amounts of money and build a team that leads you towards bankruptcy if kept for a long time? I care about the national tournament and the d.1 title. Beyond that my interest dies.


I'm at this point now too. I have zero goals outside my own country because of the obvious financial strain needed to compete at the top levels of B3. Not to mention there seems to be more teams than ever taking their shot with a massive payroll this season.

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Date: 7/30/2013 11:04:36 PM
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is the risk worth the reward?

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