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Two points, Lord of Doom:

1. The tax increase that we implemented functions in the manner that Charles describes in your quote, but the increase is quantitatively milder than in his example.

2. You are overstating the effects of the new tax on your own players. Because you have only 7 recent sales, your tax rate for players that you acquired this week has increased only from 20 to 21 percent. For all players that you have had for more than a week, the tax rate is exactly the same as it was before the changes. You will not see significant increases until you have made many more sales.

So my guy at 13% will that remain 13% all season or will they creep up from the base figure.
Needless to say my hands are tied now in the market - will this cause teams to DT every 2 seasons? 1 season inactive therefore reducing taxes then next season go crazy with selling and buying then back to quiet again?? If I interpret it correctly the DT's can still operate 14 weeks on 14 weeks off?

well, it is recalculated every week. so a DT team would be able to operate 1-2 weeks than stop for the next 14 weeks.

I like this new DT limitation, lets change all your roster if you want and get profit from medium-long term training, at the same time is a strong penalty to day trading. A wise move, imho.

Just a sugesttion to fine tuning it: Don't take in account low amount operations (lets say less than 20000 or 15000) because it's impossible to make profit day trading with such operations and if you are near 14 players sold you are more likely firing that player than selling it, but those players can be valuable for a lowest division team for completing their rosters, at least i have won last two seasons and 25 % of my roster were players i bought for less than 10000 and played more than 40 minutes/week

Regards

If you have only made a few sales in the previous 14 weeks, then it will indeed stay between 3.0% and 20.0%. However, for a team that has made, say, 15 sales in the last season, the sales tax might instead range from 4.5% to 30%.

So an average of one transaction per week is already daytrading, that evil type of destroying the game? How about frequently buying young trainees, giving them 1-2 skillups and selling? That can together with team rebuilding very easily lead to 15 transactions. Forbidded, unwanted, not mainstream?

Look, I am really stunned. The game is loosing users. Many (new) users find it too complicated and others feel that they have too little money for a long time.

Now you are making this a poll-democracy. Do you really think that games need to be perfectly balanced to be exiting or attractive? I do not think so. A lot in game spirit is dependant on finding short-cuts, tweaks, advantages etc. . This is certainly not limited to daytrading, it can be the superiority of a certain training regime, a play-off strategy or whatsoever. Make BB mainstream, find yourself very lonely very soon.

I more and more feel that BB wants to make the game "perfect" in a way, that nobody can complain, that some "bad guy with unjust strategy" outplayed them.

This is nice - but boring to dead.

Claimer: I do not mind daytrading. In a growing community it is not a major problem. I respect any effort and success made by other managers who find a smart way to win. I like a balanced game. Tweaks and bugs are part of a balanced game.

Disclaimer: I am not daytrading.

I like a lot these changes, better than I was expected.
It seems to me the market is still alive and the price are rising week after week so once again, the economy is not a problem in this game, maybe when the salaries will be over 100k someone could have some trouble but also in this case I don't see any reason to have 15 players with more than 25k/week salary, you must be a good manager not only a good scout or a good trader.

Now everyone has to think that this is a baskeball game and that in your hand you've a team that must be trained, so you've to think to the medium-far term. In addiction you can still making some financial operations but you can do that selling one player every week or every 2 weeks not selling 15 players at the same time and buy other 15 players the day after.

Many compliments from my side, bravi!

You are overstating the effects of the new tax on your own players. Because you have only 7 recent sales, your tax rate for players that you acquired this week has increased only from 20 to 21 percent. For all players that you have had for more than a week, the tax rate is exactly the same as it was before the changes. You will not see significant increases until you have made many more sales.

thanks for clarifying. I went out from when the first sales tax was implemented and I saw a raise of about 1% for each day a player was longer in my team, but since it is a while ago, I could be off (which you pointed out I am) thereby thinking, since I have this guy for some days, he probably would have gotten to 83 to 85% already...
I indeed noticed that the other players in my team got the same tax as before, but thought that maybe the tax would not be equally severe for players being in your team for more than a season. With your post it is more clear to me where my errors in thinking lay.
thanks.

WTH this is new system??????????????????
in my player i saw the list as below!

You will receive 72% of the sale price after fees.
- This player has been on your team for 1 day.
- You have sold 18 players in the past 14 weeks.

when is the new system start?????????????????????????????
when i start selling this, the new system NOT YET Announce!!!!
I am going to top div, all my players need to change to make sure i won't be lose in every match.


it is really UNFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now i cant sell my player because i have to lost 8%!!!! it is waste!!!!!!!!

I start selling player last week before the system announce!!! PLS CHECK THE TRANSFER DATE!

thats why i said UNFAIR FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope BB can do something to solve this unfair problem!

I start selling player last week before the system announce!!!

They introduce this system just for people like you
With all the trasfers you did you should have a great team and anyway the taxes are when you're selling not when you're buying so you can buy other players if your team isn't good enough.

This new system is simply fantastic, thanks once again!

Last edited by ned at 5/21/2008 8:10:44 PM

the system is meant to contain the unfair progress of Day traders... and im happy to see that she's doing her job...