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243663.62 in reply to 243663.60
Date: 6/22/2013 4:39:55 AM
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Yea why were people spreading the lie that he homegrew his players...those are not homegrown players....If I went to dinner at someone's house and they fed me a luxury meal the bought from the restaurant down the street and said it was homemade...I'd laugh in their face. It's OBVIOUS mamba888 did not train those players with the team that won the b3 with them.

He trained a pair of them,though,so it's not he was acting like VS.Mamba is a pretty good manager,in all fairness,although I have criticized some of his methods earlier in the thread
The problem is that the economy is unbalanced among competitive and non-competitive nations(and it's not even a matter of the overall size of a country,with like 100-120 competitive managers in a country you could put up a decent show and largely reduce the tanking situation)

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243663.64 in reply to 243663.63
Date: 6/22/2013 4:56:54 AM
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He acquired this guy (11819545)after a season of training by another team,so yeah,he trained him to make him become a playmaker of national Chinese team
He acquired this guy (9610360) after a season of training and then grew him up
He acquired this guy as rookie and trained him(although he is not that good compared to the other guys) (21891947)

So Dyonisis has grew up very good players in the past.Mamba is a good manager.

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243663.66 in reply to 243663.65
Date: 6/22/2013 5:22:56 AM
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not debating if he is good at training players. since S8 you gave 3 examples of rookies he bought after a season with some other team. he trained nothing he drafted with that team. that is all i am saying. i am sure he knows how to train awesome players...homegrown means for most draftees...and 3 players is not a team...its 3 playrs..since s8....the rest/most of his players, were trained by whom? and then he bought them, already traind.

Draft is a matter of luck,though.You got to be very lucky to draft one guy that is so good for skills/potential/age that are capable to reach chertain levels
He bought young players and trained them pretty well,Mamba is a good trainer and manager

As i have stated in my original post here,is true that Chinese managers trained their players as Dyonisus wants so that he can buy them,and Dyonisis made borderline TPA transfers finding noobs all over the world that overpayed his players,but this doesn't change the fact that Mamba is a pretty good manager

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Date: 6/22/2013 5:42:44 AM
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dude...he won it all...i think its fair to say he is better than good!!!!

But there are other better than good managers in teh world as well. homegrown was the topic I was talkking about....and the topic of who trained his players is relevant to consider. For sure he is great at training players, but in theory he did not train the players he won with.

No,he trained them.He bought them at a fairly young age when they were far from ebing completely developeed,and he bring those players to the highest level,that's completely his merits.No one of the top team in every national country train the major part of their players.Train players means lose games while they become good enough to help your team
I agree,there other managers in the world as good as him,and there are further reasons why he won 3 BBB and the last 2 in a roe than just his superior pure training skills above the other managers in the world...but we have yet talked about them

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Date: 6/22/2013 5:49:42 AM
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Gazdag e Qijing were the starting P and G on his B3 run
So yeah,they were key players for him

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 6/22/2013 5:49:50 AM

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243663.72 in reply to 243663.61
Date: 6/22/2013 10:04:02 AM
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VS can do what he does because of micronation scenario and also in part due to excess FA releasing/farming globally...


Yeah, its a competitive advantage BBs have never fixed and likely never will. torooo made a ton of money from a season ticket holder bug in the first 4-5 seasons and nobody could compete with them financially, but they did eventually fix that, along with other financial issues that created inequality. the micronation one they never addressed though. The TV contract doesnt balance that out, cause whatever less a small country team makes in TV they make up in other areas (consisently winning road games, more flexibility with training, being able to carry a lower payroll and still win, etc)

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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