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thanks for the link... will go and take a look!!

and i wonder why im never in contention for an MVP :D

i dont seem to feature much on the Points/Rebounds leaderboard.. 2 of the guys that are there are now sold!!

Last edited by Superfly Guy at 6/4/2009 9:16:21 AM

"....But in BB there are many teams operating in J-League style quality divisions but capable of holding their own in Premier Leagues...."

So, what you want is a cap so that teams from small nations can´t be as good as top teams from larger nations?

"....But in BB there are many teams operating in J-League style quality divisions but capable of holding their own in Premier Leagues...."

So, what you want is a cap so that teams from small nations can´t be as good as top teams from larger nations?

ha...now why would I be for a proposal like this??!!!

Ah, i seem to have confused things a bit.

I´ll make a note to stop making a fool out of myself on the international forums.
I´m not saying i´ll make it, just that i´ll try.

Anyway, i am a little concerned about how this all plays out....

I´ll make a note to stop making a fool out of myself on the international forums.

I wouldnt worry... ive been doing that since season 3.... :D

I´ll make a note to stop making a fool out of myself on the international forums.

I wouldnt worry... ive been doing that since season 3....

I've also been doing it, but only since season 4. Or was it 5? Either way, what I think is the essence of both you and 23larsens (and mine) is that we worry that we may lose the teoretic chance of keeping up (or in my case, catching up) with the big teams from big countries, IF we assume right in that the TV contract and merchandising is to be based somehow on the size of the country. Would that be correct?

Since none of us had the chance to choose country (very good for building a strong community) I think BB should emphasis fair possibilities wherever you come from. This would not be the case if they cap the top one may reach in a country. They could however make it harder to reach the top. Perhaps a bigger gap between divisions is not such a bad thing?

Another thing is the arena. I have been building like a madman since I started. Every time I had spare money I built a little, only buying new players when I sold old ones. So I have used almost all my revenue income on arena. This have undoubtedly prevented me to promote, but I would rather promote with a chance of staying there instead of beeing demoted and having to sell newly aquired players because of empty stadiums. So this long time strategy were founded upon other premises than this seasons tweak foretells. Some mentioned that it would be unfair if people got the chance to downsize. I would find it gravely unfair if I didn't, and a little unfair anyway. But understand that some things got to be done by the BB's and since I can't think of a better way to do it, I therefore accept it as the best option concidering that I would have chose otherwise had it been this way all the time.

Last edited by Svett Sleik (U21-Scout Norge) at 6/4/2009 3:23:41 PM

I think the changes are made to help teams from strong leagues (it's not based on country, but league) keep up with juggernauts from lame small countries, and not the other way around. Because you and superfly and myself play in leagues that are crap, we have the luxury of building our arena or saving cash to buy superstars. Throw in daytrading, and a powerhouse is born. JBBL and Thai d. 1 have been reaping top league revenues while playing in d.3 caliber leagues. While I am not against this loophole, I do see the advantage it gives us, and can't fault the BBs for trying to reign it in.

I think it is a bit short-sighted to say that you had a single-tracked "long-term" strategy in a game that is only in its 9th season and one that has had major changes every season. While the game matures you should try to develop your franchise in a balanced way so that whatever changes do occur, you are able to roll with them. Putting all of your eggs in one basket wasn't a good idea 150 years ago when that phrase was invented and it still isn't a good strategy today.

What differentiates a good manager for the rest is not the ability to set a long term goal and hit it but rather the ability to adapt to changes and still hit the objective.

The term "long-term strategy" here wouldn't work in the real world anyway. You can't realistically plan for 10 years and assume everything will remain constant.

spaz,

i respect your personality and your standpoint , but its true that changes do occur. some could even be against a certian group of people to keep balance.

just like when nobody can beat schumacher using ferari cars that the league have to made changes in the rule so to have a even more competition

this can be understood, like me i work so that my team can have a balance team. aside from that my goal which i dont expect everyone to agree but my goal is to seldom sell my players i wanted them to be there as long as possible or even retire on my team.

with this i have to struggle to get enough money that my arena now could get me around 500k every home game basing it on how the rules and economics are the passes seasons.

mind you i havent even got to the point wherein i can get so much money out of it.

and suddenly it would hit me because i choose to do something that others arent doing that i get advantage over it and now those who did not pay attention that much are crying out saying there must be something that should be done.

for whatever excuse of their league being higher or whatever or you need to concentrate in getting players, i do believe the game started evenly meaning its not put in there that the parameters there are.

im not saying blame it on your ancestors that made your competition quite tighter than the others but they choose something over the other and as you say its up to you how you make it up for yourself.

i havent got any confirmation from the bb but from what i understand is, the merchandise and the attendance will take effect already while the tv contract will be be after ASW?

its natural we get reactions from changes, and changes are natural to make things better, but to make it a roller coaster ride would mean another thing.

and to voice out opinion is also one thing.



Last edited by Shoei at 6/5/2009 2:24:15 AM

Dear Shoei,

As far as our long term objective goes, I can draw many similarities between our teams. I work to have a balanced team, can barely make it past 400k much less 500k every home game and want all my players to retire in my team if possible. I also set aside a tidy sum each season for arena expansion.

While the changes do hit my team as well as yours, perhaps it is time to take a step back and look at why it has been deemed necessary to make the changes. I do not suscribe to the notion that the BBs are making changes for the sake of making changes. Is it because that the BBs have somehow chose to reward those that 'did not pay much attention' and smack us who had long term strategies across the palm? I doubt it.

The changes were made because quite frankly the arenas were getting out of control for bigger teams and younger teams really needed a lot of time and investment to get anywhere up to scratch. Switching a portion of the attendance income allows younger teams to get up to speed faster while addressing the issue of big country/small country competitiveness. Teams from the top leagues in big countries require a huge amount of cash to remain competitive while teams from smaller countries remain competitive with a much lower wage level allowing them to amass a bigger warchest (I mean bank account). The new TV income addresses this issue by adjusting the income according to the level of competitiveness in the league. Therefore, teams from big countries and smaller countries compete at a more level playing field. As compensation, teams from smaller countries will find it easier to make up for the revenue difference by packing in local NT players which will be difficult in bigger countries.

Like you, I got hit with the arena change stick. Then, I got hit with the new TV income stick because being the dominant team in my league, I pack the most superstars and most of the other teams in the league will bring down the TV income average as opposed to being in a league where everyone is of the same level as me.

However, I do understand that the changes were made for the good of the game and were required as balancing mechanisms before things spiralled out of control. When I read the news, I applauded. I love my team. But even though these changes will have a negative effect on my team, I applaud them because they are necessary for the greater good of the game.

Anyhow, if you had invested in your arena earlier, you get to sell anything you over-constructed for a tidy sum now.


** From what I understand, TV contracts will be negotiated during ASW and the rest (Merchandise and attendance) next season, which is season 10.

Who really thinks the BBs makes changes just to mess with us? I sure don´t.

I have no problem understanding the reasons for making these changes and i do think this will help the young teams.

Not so sure i understand about the big country/small country "issue" at all....

"....As compensation, teams from smaller countries will find it easier to make up for the revenue difference by packing in local NT players which will be difficult in bigger countries..."

I´m interested in your reasoning here?