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190315.638 in reply to 190315.636
Date: 10/13/2011 7:04:58 AM
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but he has too many players with good stamina

Well I assume he's training ONLY stamina/FT, since his youngest player is 25 (and he's less than a mediocre player).

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190315.639 in reply to 190315.638
Date: 10/13/2011 8:40:57 AM
Nitra Corgons
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Second Team:
Nitra Urpiners
but he has too many players with good stamina

Well I assume he's training ONLY stamina/FT, since his youngest player is 25 (and he's less than a mediocre player).

no he trains game shape. at least last two weeks he did.

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190315.640 in reply to 190315.637
Date: 10/13/2011 8:51:42 AM
Nitra Corgons
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Second Team:
Nitra Urpiners

JS15 JR11
OD20 HA19
DR20 PA12
IS 15 OD10
RB 5 SB 5

wouldnt he score more with look inside or patient?:P


If your SG with great defensive skills should have also great shooting, and a bit of PA, he would have a salary of 210-250k. This is not a small difference in salary. That's why I think the "future" for great teams is to train skills in positions that are not very salary demanding (IS and ID on guards; JR, OD, PA on inside players).

i would take the guy with 250k salary if he is my own NT player, becose merch would reduce his salary by 50k and that is reasonable salary. but that is other thing.
it is of course very good for you to train player like that, becose anything that is unique is expensive on market, you know.
and it´s been couple of seasons big teams train players out the position. that is necesary. i am fan of teams with different tactics, ones you make it work, you could be unbeatable. but you wont win B3 if at least 4 of your starters can score.
edit: this guy would score pretty much the same way as VS´s players at SG position. you would pay less of course on salaries.

Last edited by LA-zajino at 10/13/2011 8:54:03 AM

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190315.641 in reply to 190315.631
Date: 10/13/2011 9:39:31 AM
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i respect rwystyrk for trying something new but i don't think Patient will help beating an efficient Look Inside..
i'm testing that tactic for about 1,5 seasons and i don't think it can give the extra field goal success in compensation for the rebounds you give away..


I´m not really sure that you will loose so many rebounds. If you set your line-up right and then swap some defensive positions you will have same number of rebounds in defense like in a common line-up.
If you set the right player against worse defender he can give you around 40+ points with more like 50% percentage and that can be key factor in a game because you don´t loose nothing in defense ratings.

Your Push the ball is too expensive how you have mentioned. Patient can be good choice but I haven´t tried it many times so it´s just my suggestion without any relevant proves.

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190315.642 in reply to 190315.640
Date: 10/13/2011 10:21:43 AM
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wouldnt he score more with look inside or patient?:P


LI: He would score same or more, but he would take only midrange shots, layups and inside shots, at which he is best, but the same would do his teammates as opposed to outside ISO

Patient: Patient focuses on only one scorer, outside ISO does on 2-3 players. With Patient, you have to find yourself a mismatch (SG on PF for example), while with Outside ISO you could find mismatches for your players at their natural position.

You think "my player" wouldn't be a part of a NT team?

Anyway, we are already quite off topic (I started it, I know), so I will try to restrain a bit from it.

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190315.643 in reply to 190315.642
Date: 10/13/2011 10:34:33 AM
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i find that that shooting guard would actually score better in inside isolation, than outside isolation as he be using his inside shot and driving more to his advantage. Instead of taking more mid and long range jumpers.

This is just from past experience were when i play inside iso my PG or SF depends on which position he is on will score my most points due to his strong IS against very weak inside D. While my PF dominates in outside Iso as he has Prominent JS causing a mismatch against his player therefore hitting alot more mid range jumpers.


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190315.644 in reply to 190315.642
Date: 10/13/2011 10:56:51 AM
BC Hostivař
II.2
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Jirkov
Good luck in finding mismatches at natural positions.
Patient si not working primarily on mismatches, my team will play patient to Uhrovic whatever position he plays even if Lípa or Smolnik plays at PF with mismatch.

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190315.646 in reply to 190315.645
Date: 10/14/2011 7:18:31 AM
BC Hostivař
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
12041204
Second Team:
Jirkov
Against Tenakha I made more off. rebounds than he made even if there was more possesion in his offensive part of court. Also last season semifinal it wasn't so big issue against VS.
I think you overestimate rebounds in this tactic.

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190315.648 in reply to 190315.646
Date: 10/19/2011 8:04:57 AM
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So we have first team in BBB final. Congratulation to 羌哥, and gloria victis to defeted.

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