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66311.65 in reply to 66311.1
Date: 3/25/2010 11:10:33 AM
Nitra Corgons
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Otázka: ako by ste preložili taktiky BOX AND ONE a ISOLATION? Malo by sa to potom vôbec prekladať?

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66311.66 in reply to 66311.65
Date: 3/25/2010 11:46:19 AM
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Keby bolo na mne, tak by som to nechal tak, lebo casto ten preklad straca povodny vyznam. Ale na druhej strane, ked mame slovensky preklad, tak nech to je uz vsetko po slovensky podla mna.

S tym prekladom je to tazsie...mozno zona+1 a len izolacia? Aj tak si myslim, ze bez vysvetlenia ludom nebude z nazvu zrejme o aku taktiku ide.

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66311.67 in reply to 66311.65
Date: 3/25/2010 2:26:53 PM
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Box and one: Zona plus 1 ? alebo Zona styroch ?

Isolation naozaj neviem...

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66311.68 in reply to 66311.67
Date: 3/25/2010 3:06:45 PM
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Myslim ze Isolation jednoznacne izolacia
Box and one fakt netusim skusim sa opytat jedneho trenera :DDDDDD zajtra ak ho stretnem v hale

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66311.69 in reply to 66311.68
Date: 3/25/2010 3:08:15 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box-and-one_defense

z toho co som pochopil ide BBmanom asi o to,aby trosicku znevvyhodnili timy,ktore maju tim zlozeny z priemernych hracov a jedneho SG s platom ako cely zvysok timu,ktory striela za zapas polku striel a zrejme teda ide o nejaku osobku klucoveho strelca na perimetri.

http://www.jes-basketball.com/animated/poffense1-4postiso...

Izolacia.treba si pustat to videjko postupne. tazko povedat o co ide BBmanom tu. chapal by som to ako jeden utok kde akciu postupne rozohrava PF a PG si zbiehava pod kos,nasledne SG dostava loptu a prihrava ju rozbehnutemu PF ktory ide do kosa, po tom co mu PG urobil clonu. ale robit tuto taktiku pocas celeho zapasu? no trosku divne.

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66311.70 in reply to 66311.69
Date: 3/25/2010 3:15:28 PM
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Myslim ze izolacia je aj to ze dam priklad :DD Kobe si odzenie setkych hracov na jednu stranu a na druhej strane hra sam one on one...

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66311.71 in reply to 66311.68
Date: 3/25/2010 3:23:19 PM
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to tym trenerom si myslel chrenku, ci rudeza? zabudol som tam niekoho?DD

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66311.72 in reply to 66311.71
Date: 3/25/2010 3:25:02 PM
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No za Rudezom urcite nie :DDD to nechaj tak za ktorym to sa mi nechce vysvetlovat lebo mozno nebude v hale Marko sa vola

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66311.73 in reply to 66311.72
Date: 3/25/2010 3:26:36 PM
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ja ze Sesto xDxD

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66311.74 in reply to 66311.69
Date: 3/25/2010 3:29:21 PM
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tak ten Box and One som si tipol spravne...

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66311.75 in reply to 66311.69
Date: 3/25/2010 3:36:05 PM
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S tym prvym suhlasim. Da sa to v podstate spravit aj teraz, ale len pri 1-1 obrane, ked na superovho hraca nasadis v obrane najlepsieho obranara. Cize to nepovazujem za nejake velke znevyhodnenie, uvidime ako sa to bude chovat.

Ten odkaz si dal na konkretny druh Isolation (Post isolation), mozno sa dockame aj takeho:) Vo vseobecnosti by pri Isolation malo ist o to, aby zakoncoval hrac, ktory ma v porovnani so sebou najslabsieho obrancu (mismatch). Takze to vidim ako nejaky opak zavedenia Box and One obranneho systemu, kde pri prvom ide o ubranenie najlepsieho G, pripadne SF a v tom druhom o to, aby co najviac zakoncoval najlepsi hrac, resp. sa vyuzivali pripadne mismatche.

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