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On the transfer list, I found a guy with respectable SB with a salary of 1700. I found a guy with strong inside shot and strong SB with a salary of 3032.

I believe that salary for skills is additive. In this case, respectable SB costs AT MOST 1700 in salary. Strong SB costs AT MOST 3032 in salary. This assumes that they haven't trained SB since the wage update, but I believe you are also making the same assumption. In any case, it is not between 10,000 and 20,000.

At around $3000, why would you want any less than strong SB? Once you get up to high levels of inside d (sensational or higher), it is actually more cost effective to improve shot blocking.

But there you are giving an example of 2 bad players.But if you do the same reasoning with the best NT players, that wage difference its going to increase a lot.

I will ask again if you can demonstrate this?

Your Centres with their secret additional super expensive SB are not that great that they are a threat to the entire international community...

helping everyone understand more about skills and their wage value is more interesting isnt it??

otherwise we just have your say so.... hardly evidence enough to re-write the rules or input in a noob guide!

no no, I don't complain about the wage of my players, at the contrary, I think that they wage of my players is very low compared to the others NT players with similar characteristics. Its obvios that I cant complain about that, but I think that is unfair to the other managers to pay $20.000more of wage just for having a good level on SB.

You asked for an example, here it is. This are the habilities of one of my NT players, he is a great player and his level on SB is a 2. And if you take a look to the wage you will get shocked. I'm not traducing the skills but i can put a number instead. And this skills are true, I'm not lying.


[Uruguay]
Center
Edmundo Herrera (2386675)
Wage: $ 29 055
DMI: 164000
Age: 21
Height: 7'1" / 216 cm
Potencial: AllStar *
Training: fuerte(8)

Tiro: mediocre(5) Alcance de Tiro: regular(6)
Def. Exterior: espantoso(3) Dribbleo: inepto(4)
Penetración: respetable(7) Pases: inepto(4)
Tiro Interior: prominente(10) Def. Interior: sensacional(12)
Rebotes: estupendo(17) Tapones: horrible(2)
Resistencia: inepto(4) Tiros Libres: inepto(4)

Experiencia: inepto(4)

You should be glad about me giving the skills of this player, because I never said them to ENYONE. But I'm not tolerating that somebody treats me like a lyer, so enjoy this skills...

But there you are giving an example of 2 bad players.But if you do the same reasoning with the best NT players, that wage difference its going to increase a lot.

I said that I'm assuming that salaries are additive. In other words, the contribution for salary stays the same for strong SB, regardless of the level of other skills.

You seem to be assuming that salaries are multiplicative or non-linear.

My experience says that salaries for skills are additive or very close to it. You also have to remember that a player's listed position at the time of the salary update has a huge impact on his salary. The top skills for his position will have the greatest impact on his salary. The side skills less so.

This means that a centre will see a much smaller salary impact from a high jump range than a shooting guard, for example.

Can you explain your argument? I don't really understand what point you're trying to make.

Can you explain your argument? I don't really understand what point you're trying to make.

Now I am confused too.

You say it adds to the salary too much yet he has level 2 SB????

NOOOO, i'm sorry if i confuse, but my english is realy bad. And im making a big effor to explain you my point.

What Im traing to explain you its that the players like mine, but with 9 on SB, they wage $20.000 more than my player. Its simple, do you think that the wage of that player is correct?

Last edited by El Diablo at 7/28/2008 12:37:26 PM

I think that player with the same skills as yours AND with good SB cost that much more, because they are simply THAT much better. You can't realy compare it, but I'm sure that if you square them off against each other, your player will always loose the battle to a more multiskilled player... Maybe others might think otherwise, but that is how I see it.
Also at those high levels of skills, sublevels indeed start to weight hard on the wage. It's very well possible your player is prety low on all of his skills, while the other players you saw are high in their skills, and have the additional SB to add to their wage...

I'm not very sure, but I think you base your 'facts' on a little to few information. I'm positive SB doesn't weigh any harder then any other skill on the wages. Ofcourse a center will ask more wage for shotblocking then a PG would, but so will a PG ask a lot more wage for his handling then the center will.

So far I didn't see any info about SB being excessively expensive on wage, not even with your examples.

Well Prodigious RB and Lvl 2 SB = unbelievable... any Prodigious with a couple of Proficients/Prominents is soon going to stack up... and on his RB alone I think that guys wages seem to be correct....

Ok, I got your point. As a real time coach myself I have to admit that shotblocking is not something I would make a practice plan for. Shotblocking has a lot to do with the players evaluation for and reaction to the situation of his opponent wanting to take a shot. And that is what you practice when you do defense drills drills. So I have to agree with you, that practicing shotblocking as an extra training is a little bit "incommon". So I would suggest to give an extra training that is based on reaction and reflexes, which trains stealing and blocking.

Which brings me to another point what I am missing in this game: the skill of Faking (shots, passes, cuts).

faking would be cool:)