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9808.66 in reply to 9808.63
Date: 12/12/2007 10:06:34 PM
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A good example on why a fee on the transfer is of little efficient: Look at player: (2258449) He is not the very best player. Bought for 50 000 and re-bought for 599 000 and now for sale for almost 999 000. What problem do the fee make?

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9808.67 in reply to 9808.64
Date: 12/12/2007 10:07:02 PM
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Punching myself in the nuts would be more effective than using HT's Transfer Compare.

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Date: 12/12/2007 10:10:26 PM
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Which nuts?

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9808.69 in reply to 9808.67
Date: 12/12/2007 10:13:50 PM
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I selldom use it, but actually for beginners it is a decent (even though far from perfect) tool to help beginners from making too stupid mistakes.

I have no strong opinion if BB should have something similar or not, I was just pointing out that I believed that you misunderstood the post you commented.

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9808.70 in reply to 9808.66
Date: 12/12/2007 10:29:54 PM
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A good example on why a fee on the transfer is of little efficient: Look at player: (2258449) He is not the very best player. Bought for 50 000 and re-bought for 599 000 and now for sale for almost 999 000. What problem do the fee make?


He hasn't been sold for 599000. His owner bought him from himself.
This is another technique I don't like: a coach will put a player on the transfer list for 0$ and then offer for him an exagerate amount of money. Inexperienced coaches see that somebody offered for that player and feel safe offering 1000$ more.

Taxes would solve this problem. (But not day trading as a whole)

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9808.71 in reply to 9808.49
Date: 12/12/2007 10:42:30 PM
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but that does not mean that the game should be about economics.


The game based on tactic and one tactic is that you should try to have better players than your opponent, good players costs money and how you can earn faster money - you should buy cheap and sell expensive!!!

If you think a little bit into future there will be hopefully a lot of more teams at BB and of course a lot of more leagues, how do you think could a new manager come to premier league without a good financial tactic? It would be boring because the teams in higher leagues would have the best players the most money and the most experience

- thats my opinion and because of that I think daytrading is one tactic of this game although I cant like like if someone makes more money and has better player than I :-)

From: ned

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9808.72 in reply to 9808.71
Date: 12/12/2007 10:57:18 PM
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U've only one trasfer, pay more attention to the market and you'll see that something should be improved. In my opinion I would prefer to go in premier league becuase I've choosen the good player and the good tactic for my team, for sure I will not have satisfaction to arrive in premier league only because I wasted 80% of my time making trading. Think that without trading eveyone can arrive in premier league, with day trading only who plays as a day trader can do that, do you think this is a beautiful game? Anyway I don't think I can convince you because we have completely a different vision of the game; I can understand you but if the game will continue in this way I think I'll leave it simply because is not more fun.

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9808.73 in reply to 9808.72
Date: 12/13/2007 5:46:53 AM
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Sorry i didn't make myself very clear, what i ment and the other guy understood what i was saying, is a value for people to refrence so beginers or people who aren't knowledgeable about the transfer market have a refrence point when buying a player and hopefully choose not to way overly pay for the player. I didn't mean BB should actully set the price of the player.

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9808.74 in reply to 9808.73
Date: 12/13/2007 6:13:14 AM
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I didn't mean BB should actully set the price of the player.


I understand that.

It's not feasible to do anything like that with the myriad of available skills.

HT is more feasible with the limited amount of skills relevant to a position.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
From: chespirito

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9808.75 in reply to 9808.71
Date: 12/13/2007 7:30:03 AM
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I think you neeed to read my post again and edit your comment after that...not in one single place did I say that economics should not be a part of BB.

Just as you are saying "how do you think could a new manager come to premier league without a good financial tactic?", I could say "how do you think could a new car win the Indy 500 without good wheels?".

Once wheels become a too important factor in car racing and the importance of things like the actual car and pilot (compare BBall game and coaching) becomes limited in comparison with the wheels, the racing competition whil inevitably loose interest.

So just as the car needs good wheels, BB needs good economics. however, this isn't even close to mean that the Indy 500 should be a wheel race or that BB should be an econmics game.

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9808.76 in reply to 9808.74
Date: 12/13/2007 7:38:01 AM
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I didn't mean BB should actully set the price of the player.


I understand that.

It's not feasible to do anything like that with the myriad of available skills.

HT is more feasible with the limited amount of skills relevant to a position.

I agree with that, and there is actually one more problem. The number of transfers in HT is way higher than in BB, therefore there is a lot easier to gather data for a fair comparison.

In essence, if it was possible to do a good "transfer compare" I would say it would be a fine addition, otherwise it would just create trouble.

A different way to do a rough, but still somewhat helpful comparison would be to create a metric that compares the amount of training needed to reach the skill a player has and compare him with similar players, then supply a confidence interval of an estimated price. (I am not saying that this would work, just that it could...)

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