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191779.68 in reply to 191779.65
Date: 7/27/2011 4:42:42 PM
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I had one player of '89... he can't play basketball, he can't drive, he can't shoot, he can't dribble, but he can rebound and blocks shots... how can you explain this?!

- timing
- hanging
- istinct
- intelligence
- full body coordination

but you can't affirm that "ball handling help shot blocking" it's unreal IMHO

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191779.69 in reply to 191779.67
Date: 7/27/2011 4:43:51 PM
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I will give you a funny example: Do you remember Karate Kid? "Togli la cera, etc..."? And the kid learned new "skill"?

I know it's not a legitimate exampe, but trainers in various sports use all sorts of such "trainings" that at first glance don't have anything to do with the skill they want to train, but after a while the trainee gets better in it. I've seen a lot of this when I was training baseball (at amateur level) and some USA trainers held a camp in Slovenia. We were learning various skills through strange practices, but they worked.

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191779.70 in reply to 191779.66
Date: 7/27/2011 4:46:06 PM
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But training was never realistic to start with. Why do you make an argument that the change is awful because it's not realistic ?

If you are a trainer, your job is not to pass by on fridays and say "ok kids, this week, those who played as PGs will improve. Sorry SGs. Bye, see you next friday".


OHHHHHHHHH Good thing... why they did not allow this?! this could be an intelligent improvement.

- slow down pop ups
- allow to train different positions every week

My job is to train, maybe, 2 times a day, not every week :-p

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191779.71 in reply to 191779.67
Date: 7/27/2011 4:47:05 PM
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Where do you get the idea from, that there is randomness in cross training?

Couldn't it be that the 10% slowdown of primary training is compensated by training all other skills at +~1,1% (9x1,1=10). There are 10 main skills, so why shouldn't it be that way?

If it would be that way: a rebound pop wouldn't be very expensive for a guard because his skill would only be raised by tiny sublevel steps. We all know that salary is calculated with sublevels so the salary would only go up a little bit, too.

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191779.72 in reply to 191779.51
Date: 7/27/2011 4:49:13 PM
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If someone wants to build a 1 dimensional player, they should have that option. The game already had a checks and balances system and that was player salary when a one dimensional player was created. And I hate 1-dimensional players, but I dont want the game to dictate to me what I should train and what I shouldn't, and I dont want to be penalized for it if I got an 18year old rookie and I wanted to push his OD to 14 before I trained everything else to get it out of the way.


did you really get penalised now more then before? The negativ elastic effect got reduced, ok some training disappears from your main area but it still makes your player better instead of disappering totally like before.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/27/2011 4:56:33 PM

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191779.73 in reply to 191779.69
Date: 7/27/2011 4:54:02 PM
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I will give you a funny example: Do you remember Karate Kid? "Togli la cera, etc..."? And the kid learned new "skill"?

Why did I not become a karate champion when my mom forced me to make the bed?Oh,I'm so unlucky....

this cross-training is a bad thing.A user work to find on the market and plan the training to grow players with the best salary/performance ratio,and then the game oddly train useless skill that raise tha salary of these players ruining this work????

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191779.74 in reply to 191779.61
Date: 7/27/2011 4:54:57 PM
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Did you ever play basketball??

If you are training ball-handling in real life, your reflexes and coordination gets better. Both are useful in shot blocking.


Are you serious?!

Anyway yes, my profession is basketball trainer, sir



lots of football teams actually integrate life kinetics into their training, which are unusual movement like jumping on one leg while catching balls, which should increase their reactions and anticipation. Or in a smaller form in varied variation of a normal football drill, so that don't learn one situation.

Lots of handling drills look like that, and reaction and anticipation is also helpful while blocking shots. Also you could learn that in game^^

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191779.75 in reply to 191779.69
Date: 7/27/2011 4:58:40 PM
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I will give you a funny example: Do you remember Karate Kid? "Togli la cera, etc..."? And the kid learned new "skill"?

I know it's not a legitimate exampe, but trainers in various sports use all sorts of such "trainings" that at first glance don't have anything to do with the skill they want to train, but after a while the trainee gets better in it. I've seen a lot of this when I was training baseball (at amateur level) and some USA trainers held a camp in Slovenia. We were learning various skills through strange practices, but they worked.


LOL!
Man have you seen Karate Kid?..in italian?..wtf!

So, for you Chris Paul can be a good blocker and inverse Dwight Howard can have good handling?..come on!
Your thought is good if improve the correlate skills(like before), maybe can increase the secondary skill improve and decrease the first(like now) but with sense, now is totally no-sense.
If i want my SG with a low level in Rebound because keeps a low salary, why should increase the salary for a pop that i don't need?

You understand?..it's simple :)

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191779.76 in reply to 191779.74
Date: 7/27/2011 4:59:38 PM
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I should change work...
I didn't understand that we should dribble to block shots and maybe shoot to understand how to play in defense...

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191779.77 in reply to 191779.75
Date: 7/27/2011 5:00:51 PM
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So, for you Chris Paul can be a good blocker and inverse Dwight Howard can have good handling?..come on!


Well you can't compare this to BB because BB doesn't take into account height during the game...but if Chris Paul and Dwight Howard were equally high, yes, I'd bet on Chris Paul to make more blocks.

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191779.78 in reply to 191779.74
Date: 7/27/2011 5:01:15 PM
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reactions and anticipation aren't techincal skills,but physycal and mental skill that affect all the others in the game(like experience in BB)

But the strikers didn't learn goalkeepers's techniques when they train themselves in shooting the ball towards the goal...

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