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in germany the teams have the"advantage" that every team chose the same strategy of growth,so every team build enormous arenas,but building weakest team in the short period(and this is saying by evaluations,it is objective).Now you have the results of your strategy,having great arenas and starting to growing great national teams.
But the point is another;by now you have a great advantage on the TL and on the specialist market,that continue to grow;the request for taxes based on arena sizes and not on the division level is a way to decrease it,not to cancel it,while other countries reach your actual level,as the taxes based on division was a way to punish the teams which only made his attention on the roster,forgetting completely the arena(mainly italian teams),and as the taxes on day trading was made to punish teams which not trained their player,but using only daytrading to win
The aim of BBs is to make BB a complete management game,in which a user have to look at all these aspects,but also to give the possibility to evry user to reach the top level.By now,some teams have too many advantage to every other teams and there is the risk that the existent gap will never filled
Just my two cents

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 2/22/2009 12:38:09 PM

if yu started early with extra on the arena, and invest the half of the extra Money in new places you would be at a good level today, without making much compremiss with your succes.

If you now have to bouild 10-15k places in a short time, with balance around zero there is a problem. Maybe you had to play like the bulls 2-3 season below your possibilites to rebuild your infrastructure.

I think that in a mangerial game had to exist some objective in the short period and some objectives in a long period,to give a user a reason to continue the game.
If i had to start immediately to build my arenas,and play for many seasons in the lower division,with any possibility to play at higher levels,with maybe only the objective to grew a NT player like a hen-pen,not showing the ability of a manager...i don't think many people play this kind of game.And the Bulls aren't a good example,because they started early to play,when the level was very low and they have the possibility to thinking quietly to the arena,without many preoccupations on the roster level

so what about the flying munchkins?

so what about the flying munchkins?

a grat team with a great manager and a good arena.this is not the point,i could made the example of venividiveni fb(45276)
maybe you don't understand my point of view.I'm not accusing every one to make something wrong,but there are some cyclical tendences in every sport,and always there's a movement to contrast the teams which are in advantage to give to the other teams the possibility to compete.This happen in the BB in the past penalizing some temas more than other with a general rule,this will happen in the future,maybe you'll have the most stricken by some changes in this direction,maybe the most stricken will'be other teams,but if everyone in your league are in tthe same situations,what's the problem,everyone will be in the same competitive situation

but i also say that the competition is not broken, rivality on the transfermarket isn't bad, becuase every team in the same competition is in a similiary psoition, i would say for most leagues. Else maybe the manager works more short therm and have problems now to compete with long term teams, like in was the different before.

The actualy changes was amde, because the same competition was broken, because first division teams, get a lot more money, but haven't the possibility to spend them, because there are no high salary players, and thats why it was very hard to catch up through then, and maybe thats one of the reason i am still in div 1 - because i was lucky to start few weeks before bb make promotion on hattrick.

PS: and even the german leagues make jokes about div II teams who bought there players, for exorbitant prices in our country, so why they didn't get the punishment, and we got them after your conclusion ;)

PPS: Your example even could play succesfull with small arena, so is it that superiro the arena?


Last edited by CrazyEye at 2/22/2009 1:18:10 PM

The aim of BBs is to make BB a complete management game

...so you want to punish teams who make good choices
oh yes, great idea

...so you want to punish teams who make good choices
oh yes, great idea

you mean, punish teams that took advantage of making more money in the early seasons to build a nearly insurmountable advantage over any lower division teams.

you are too smart to understand that the choice of builidng arenas very big(40k,not 10-15 k as the yours),gave too structural advantages as the system is now.This is becoming the "Right Choice",not one of the choises to develop the game of a single user.

@CrazyEye:The market is global,the discussion of incomes have to consider the differences between the various countries

...so you want to punish teams who make good choices
oh yes, great idea

you mean, punish teams that took advantage of making more money in the early seasons to build a nearly insurmountable advantage over any lower division teams.

and how do you recognize such a team? by arena size?

You know, it's rather refreshing—and reassuring— when a manager who has been/is there already can see the point-of-view of the teams that are not there. It is indeed a struggle for the teams now starting—we should do all we can not to penalize them or keep them from advancing. GM—brianjames always shows leadership in this regard even though he is at the top...Pappy