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I use long menu.

Short menu + 5 custome links would be awesome (Transfers, Players, Bids, Schedule, Economy)



Last edited by Baler0 at 10/24/2009 12:59:41 PM

i can settle this debate quite easily.

29K users have the long menu by default
20K users have the short menu by default

however when you look at users who signed up in the last 3 months, its

10K for the short menu
5K for the long menu

There is a lot of possible interpretations of this data, but I think the most conservative one is that the community is split on the subject, with older users tending to favor the long menu, and newer users favoring the shorter menu. I'll leave you all to debate why this is and what it says about our deeper human nature.

Thanks for the data Forrest.

I believe most of the users use tab browsing, so having all the links in a single menu helps a lot.

A normal situation, sending the line up for the next match. I generally (not always) open the "Set your line up", "Overview", "Roster", "Training" and "Forum" jejeje. So I can check the minutes played, the game shape, perhaps change the training, etc etc.

Another one, buying a new player. Transfers List, Bids, Forum, Roster. Since I already offered for a center, im just looking for another one in case I dont win the bid, Im checking my roster to see who is going to go once the new payer arrives and finally checking the Forum for the NT team requirements :P

With the new menu doing this actiosn would take a lot of clicks, but having customs links would help a loty to improve the new short menu. New comers are still trying to lear how to manage their team so they normally dont have a lot of things going on, but experienced users are totally different and of course if you add that often people dont like changes, well the end result is a split.

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So I strongly suggest that you consider the customs links for the short menu. Everyone has its own needs, so you have the opportunity to make a lot of people happy and cut down the long menu :P

Imagine something like this:

* User A (NT manager for a foreign country): He needs to stay in constant communication, and also look for new talent; he will have Ghana Forum, NT Rankings, Trasnfer List (to scout players) in his customs links

* User B (U21 prospects trainer): He needs to train 5 SG/PG every week and train them in different skills; he will have Weekly Satst, Training, Roster un his customs links

* User C (making a users behaviour study): Study for online users, in order to know the peak hours to sell his players; he will have Community, Forum, Transfer List on his customs links

* User D (forum reporter for the B3 and WCs): Often reports on the global the results, preview and upcoming events; he will have Global English, World (overview), NT rankings, BB's Best on his customs links

* User E (flagchaser): Missign only 2 flags; so she will have Scrimmages, World, Senegal and Bookmarks on her customs links


Etc etc the posibilities are endless

That makes sense, the short menu is better for new users but if you've been here a while, well, there was nothing wrong with the old menu so why would you want to change?

there was nothing wrong with the old menu so why would you want to change?

I had to log into the old site today and was completely lost in the variety of boxes of the old menu. It absolutely had to go.

Short menu here...

I guess if you like changes then short menu for you. But dont discount the long menu because like oldies(dont mind the term hehehe) said long menu is one click away.

That makes sense, the short menu is better for new users but if you've been here a while, well, there was nothing wrong with the old menu so why would you want to change?

...or, new users haven't yet figured out how much easier it is to navigate using the long menu, and since the long menu isn't recommended, they are hesitant to try it out. Then, before they get brave, they're already used to the short menu and don't even feel like seeing what all the hurrah over the long menu is. That's my take on most of the new users.

Regarding old users, can we get data on how many of the old users are drunk when they log in and what percentage of them are able to use the short menu without puking and/or passing out? That might help us debate whether or not there is a correlation between menu usage and ability to find/keep a girlfriend.

as i have wrote few times already,best solution for everyone ,i think, would be drop down style, like in old web, where people can close "drop downs" if they dont need it very often.
it would be great if there could be option to make atlast 2 dropdowns in long menu:

1) there where is Country, NT, U21, BBB...
2) "supporter dropdown", bookmarks, hall of fame..
for me it would be perfect, and form posts earlier, for many other managers too.

Last edited by kaprons at 11/4/2009 5:38:11 AM

we have played with ideas like this and found them all to be pretty awkward,

do you have a site in mind that uses a vertical menu with expandable drop downs that works well in your opinion?

old BB web? doesnt it worked well?
for me it was very good.
maybe you could try in new web it and see what people say...
not too bold, not too "cool"
maybe even without text in dropdown title, just those lines...


Last edited by kaprons at 11/4/2009 10:03:57 AM