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U21 Consolation Tournament -- Season 37

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284770.69 in reply to 284770.49
Date: 2/17/2017 6:40:06 AM
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Even if you're right and they are seeded (which in the 30s and 40s I do not believe), I'd take the chance of playing a few extra games than winning the first and having next to no chance of progressing further to improve my team's ranking by 1 or 2.

Nederland U21 looked like the only team trying out there.
Ireland U21 looked like the only team trying out there. And they have lost (40820)
Barbados U21 looked like the only team trying out there. And they have lost (40822)
Argentina U21 looked like the only team trying out there.
Al Jazair U21 looked like the only team trying out there.And they have lost (40826)
Peru U21 looked like the only team trying out there. And they have lost (40827)
Österreich U21 looked like the only team trying out there. And they have lost (40829)
România U21 looked like the only team trying out there. And they have lost (40831)
Colombia U21 looked like the only team trying out there. And they have lost (40832)
Ecuador U21 looked like the only team trying out there. And they have lost (40833)

10 CT on 16 games


8 of these teams lost ...... are we sure that CT is a decisive tactic?
If CT is decisive Peru and Romania should have easily win




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284770.70 in reply to 284770.42
Date: 2/17/2017 6:58:12 AM
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You're a funny guy!! ;-)

I really appreciate your explanations on the Dutch victory......
Maybe you believe that the Netherlands won because they played with more .... heart!! :-D

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284770.71 in reply to 284770.49
Date: 2/17/2017 7:15:13 AM
Vitoria Deluxe
Liga Nacional
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Second Team:
Basket Setubal
Chile also CT Portugal, and won! (CT vs normal).

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Date: 2/17/2017 7:32:42 AM
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Chile and Argentina fight to host next season Americas U21. This is huge advantage for semi final to have HCA to go to worlds. The second spot after USA is always a dogfight.

From: Siwy

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284770.74 in reply to 284770.69
Date: 2/17/2017 10:33:43 AM
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Romania had easily win because of CT, but it happened one week earlier with Czech Rep.
Also, considering that CT is played, because you think, that's your last game in tournament, 2 of these teams went further into tournament because of it, so please, don't decrease the meaning of CT ;)

Leniwy, stary, wyliniały kocur. Czasem jeszcze zerknie na polskie tłumaczenia.
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284770.75 in reply to 284770.70
Date: 2/17/2017 10:52:46 AM
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Hehehe, exactly!!! You know, nobody can tame the Dutch Lion once it gets loose ;)

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Date: 2/17/2017 2:11:05 PM
Durham Wasps
EBBL
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Second Team:
Sunderland Boilermakers
You know, nobody can tame the Dutch Lion once it gets loose

Where will the lion be when you play Serbia?

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Date: 2/17/2017 2:13:09 PM
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Probably somewhere in a cave

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284770.79 in reply to 284770.58
Date: 2/18/2017 1:03:38 PM
white snake
II.1
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Second Team:
Black Forest Boars
missing the point. Ranking can get 1 or 2 positions better, I agree, but I dispute that a few ranking positions have any meaningful impact on the draw for the following season. If you know that the draw is based on some specific seeding procedure then please clarify, because then it would be a valid reason to try to win an extra game at the expense of trying to win the tournament.

You have just to ask the right guy Lemon.
There is an impact on the draw... I would say a pretty huge one. After the consolidation tournament the european championship will take place. So what do you think how the draw works?
Europe is divide into groups. Group 1 is the powerhouse group. #1-#6 in the european ranking. Group 2 #7-#12 etc.
So the teams from group 1 are the head of each european championship group. Plus the host of the tournament.

example:
The host will be the head of Group A, the other 6 teams from group 1 will be divided as heads to the other groups. And here we get the first problem. If the host is one of the best 6 teams in europe, is will go really smooth. But if the host is #7 in europe, Group A will get two strong teams. The host and one of the first six.
After the host and #1-#6 are set as the heads, the six teams from Group 2 are distributed to the six groups under the heads. #13-#18 are the third teams in the groups and so on.

So a win can bring you from Group 3 (#13-18) to Group 2 (#7-#12). And with this you prevent harder matches against five other stronger teams.

Example (current NT ranking for Europe)
#1 - Poland
#2 - France
#3 - Srbija
#4 - Latvija
#5 - Italia
#6 - England

#7 - Spain
#8 - Finland
#9 - Turkey
#10 - Portugal
#11 - Lietuva
#12 - Slovenija

#13 - Germany

So if there would be a draw for an european tournament now, the first six would be the head, the next six the seconds. Now Spain wins and moves to #6.

#1 - Poland
#2 - France
#3 - Srbija
#4 - Latvija
#5 - Italia
#6 - Spain

#7 - England

With this they prevent Poland, France, Srbija, Latvija and Italia as possible opponents in the first round of the tournament. Just by moving up one rank. And England would have to deal with one of these six powerhouses.
(275254.12) I tracked these kind of things seasons ago. In BB every game, every victory or loss can make your next season harder or easier. If Germany could move from #13 to #12, the would have also an easier draw.

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