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Date: 9/13/2008 4:08:09 AM
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I have been training guards since I've started playing (3 seasons ago) and I must say the slow down is huge.

My two 18yo, trained by a lvl 10 coach, have yet to pop and I've trained them since week 2 of this season!

Is this really wanted? What I liked about BB is the fast training pace. I'm not going back to an HT-style game where you have to wait 8 weeks to pop :-(

From: Aric

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Date: 9/13/2008 4:24:23 AM
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my observation about 8 weeks training:

Outside Shooting

PG/SG:
Trains JR @ 2-8 weeks
Trains JS @ >7 weeks
Trains DV @ >8 weeks
Trains HN @ >8 weeks

Trainer lvl 9-10

Last edited by Aric at 9/13/2008 4:25:22 AM

From: Shoei

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is this meant that it takes that long for you to see a pop?

damn mate! there goes my huge hope for better players down the drain!


one said 3 weeks till you see one pop on OD or ID , come on mate !

i just feel disgusted

i mean how many weeks do we have in a season ? and takes that long . . . next thing you know he havent yet improved that much and his one year older already and harder to train!

for crying out loud!

From: Aric

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Date: 9/13/2008 5:35:23 AM
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is this meant that it takes that long for you to see a pop?

yea, but players like this poping regulary after 2-3 weeks in JR

$ 13 878
DMI: 56700
Age: 20
6,0"
allstar *

JS: 12 JR: 9
OD: 3 HN: 11
DV: 11 PS: 11

younger players whose got lower skills pops very rare, theres no two pops in 8 weeks.
there are big differences in better i weeker players, for me there are too big.:(

sorry for my english:)

From: Shoei

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Date: 9/13/2008 7:46:51 AM
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i guess what you meant is

players who you train are those skills that he has poorly undevelop are trained slower than those who skills that are develop in some way


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Date: 9/13/2008 9:31:25 AM
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The table in the first post is designed having a 9-10 level coach and 18-19 year old players in mind.

So if you're training 22-year old guards, you shouldn't expect anything close to these results. Even more so if most of them are 6'5".

And no, the slowdown isn't huge. But if you train garbage, you'll get garbage, it's that simple.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 9/13/2008 9:41:02 AM
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its funny

but if was a new person or someone who just kindly want to participate in this forum to not just share but also be enlighten in what ways should be better, the way you comment on this surely looks like offensive

can you blame us or me if i got nothing else but continue train my 22 year old guard

i cant seem to find any substitue in the market with his skill sets, and if your blaming me as to not get a 18-19 yr old even with lower skills level and work on it i think i can have or we can have a bit of discrepancy with regards to this matter

and im sorry because i dont know the aims of the topic, alli see is speed training analysis, and the topic is so long already that i think i reacted on what i think.

i know this isnt a help section to post\, but the topic seems to aim to help players about training analysis

so dont crucify me and for the fact your a gm . . . . kindly improve yourself :D

again kindly be specific when you say garbage because are you pertaining to a player or a skill


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Date: 9/13/2008 9:48:36 AM
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so dont crucify me and for the fact your a gm . . . . kindly improve yourself

That post wasn't directed at you.



Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 9/13/2008 9:49:14 AM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 9/13/2008 9:51:29 AM
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it wasnt ??

my PG is 22 yrs old and his 6'5 ?

whether its me or not, i know its hard but your the gm and not me. it comes with the territory

because it irked me for you to comment garbage when my 22 and 6'5 guard used to be a mvp

my apologies by the way how i comment

thanks

From: Shoei

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Date: 9/13/2008 11:22:36 AM
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i agree . . .

100% agree

i think the decline would really be seen when players are still trained at 25 years old getting their training results

if your training 18-20 year old, you can see that their training progress arent fast also though probably faster than 21-23 years old.

can someone correct me pls. this is just me by the way


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