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112371.7 in reply to 112371.6
Date: 9/19/2009 12:29:32 PM
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In the real life basketball games I played, there was always a guy jumping on my back to try to get the rebound, even when we played in a zone.

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112371.8 in reply to 112371.5
Date: 9/19/2009 12:33:07 PM
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Look at two things, both the team overall rebounding rating, its not useless... but second order I would look at the opponents starting players and see who gets more rebounds, and assume that they are the stronger rebounders, and think about setting your lineup in a way to minimize that difference.


The second part only works if I already know who my opponent will play at SF (for example).

Oh, and my PG had 9 rebounds in my last league game, so should my opponent be looking at playing a backup C at PG to counter this?

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112371.9 in reply to 112371.7
Date: 9/19/2009 12:33:55 PM
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true but in real life it can be 5 different players on 5 straight possessions. you don't match up against the same player every time.

You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, Know when to walk away and know when to run. You never count your money when youre sittin at the table. Therell be time enough for countin when the dealins done.
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112371.10 in reply to 112371.3
Date: 9/19/2009 1:14:51 PM
Superhelden
III.3
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Second Team:
TV Harheim
"individual matchups"

Well... if individual matchups are that important... lets have a look at the PF matchup of yesterdays PL.Match: (15024960). M. Coch has a rebskill of 12, his counterpart has a rebskill of 6. Does the result then make any sense?

From: Marot
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112371.11 in reply to 112371.5
Date: 9/19/2009 1:37:23 PM
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What i dislike of the new system of rebound is that playing in your court it helps a lot to the rebound in my opinion too much, its really hard to win the rebound when you go out of your court

From: ned

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112371.12 in reply to 112371.11
Date: 9/19/2009 1:41:20 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Second Team:
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but and I'm sure about it, the new GE has given a bonus if you play outside, the outside tactic is winning for the first time in the BB hystory, imho of course ;)

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112371.13 in reply to 112371.3
Date: 9/19/2009 11:12:54 PM
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we made the new rebounding formula more a function of individual matchups, looking just at the team ratings is a bit crude. Look at who specifically got all the rebounds in those games and who they were boxing out against.

This simply means you have to recalculate rebounding using the new formula. This is possible, though an unpleasant side effect will be making your rebounding ratings endogenous to the opposition's rebounding skills. Since this might be unwanted, I can see why the BB team might be against such a change. Thoughts?

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112371.14 in reply to 112371.13
Date: 9/20/2009 3:14:03 AM
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still nobody has answered how it works against a zone. Anyone who has played a proper zone knows that you are at a disadvantage compared to man in going for the rebound. You need to find the closest man to you instead of the guy you ae guarding. Which means on any given play you could have between 0 and 3 players in your are with you.

So how is the rebound formula calculated in this set.

You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, Know when to walk away and know when to run. You never count your money when youre sittin at the table. Therell be time enough for countin when the dealins done.
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112371.15 in reply to 112371.14
Date: 9/20/2009 8:54:34 AM
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I don't think this particular aspect is implemented in BB at this point.

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112371.16 in reply to 112371.14
Date: 9/20/2009 9:31:35 AM
1986 Celtics
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there are still matchups they are just variable in a zone

From: brian

To: ned
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112371.17 in reply to 112371.12
Date: 9/20/2009 10:51:43 PM
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the outside tactic is winning for the first time in the BB hystory, imho of course ;)


Which is awesome. It's nice to see some balance between the outside and inside game.

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