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From: pete

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Date: 12/20/2009 9:01:37 PM
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Also would like to have an option of playing back-ups if the lead is more then x pts with less then x number of minutes. This could work if winning or losing to not only save starters from getting injuries but to also give other players more minutes for training purposes.


I remember huge thread about this in the past and the final conclusion after long time arguing was that this would make training to easy. And that is more important then sometimes happening situation (pretty much rare) then 4th and 5th teams has points difference 10 (as example) and 5th team loses just because needed to win game by 11 points, in 4th Q first minutes got 25 lead and just cause of sub won just by 9 points... yes I know this happens, and this would be for me so I would blame everyone, but we have to choose from good and better... I choose better, so it`s harder minutes managing cause BB is more interesting that way.

If I had the control and this happened to me then I can only blame myself for not doing it right. I know it happens rarely, but this will help us improve and come playoffs, its even more important to have something like this in the game. Win or lose, atleast by having some control, you can say my best team was out there for a particular situation, and either you are better or you are not.

From: zyler

To: pete
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Date: 12/20/2009 10:02:17 PM
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the game is simulated and the outcome worked out before you can even watch the game thus if any option like this was to be made the computer would still be in control of when to put in these different line ups.
i do like the idea though about setting line ups for certain situations .
id also like to be able to set tactics for each quarter.

From: pete

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Date: 12/21/2009 12:49:13 AM
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the game is simulated and the outcome worked out before you can even watch the game thus if any option like this was to be made the computer would still be in control of when to put in these different line ups.
i do like the idea though about setting line ups for certain situations .

The only differnce is that the coaches decision for which players are in the game get overridden and it takes all that into consideration whilst simming.

id also like to be able to set tactics for each quarter.

This will make it to difficult to defend against and you will see some unrealistic results.


Last edited by pete at 12/21/2009 12:52:10 AM

From: zyler

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Date: 12/21/2009 10:35:06 PM
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yer true it would

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124105.11 in reply to 124105.4
Date: 12/31/2009 6:10:19 AM
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Having a prefered line up in different situations such as a Free Throw line-up or 3PT lin-up.


would be great new tactical feature for this game as i do not like that GE does automatically too.

Yes, it does.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 1/6/2010 7:35:26 AM
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I think I misread your post.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 1/8/2010 3:50:56 AM
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What about the following suggestion:

you can set team line ups and tactics FOR EVERY QUARTER before every game. So instead of choosing only one tactic to play with for the whole game, you can vary the tactics (and line ups) per quarter.

That would allow to play around and vary a little the pace of your offensive and defensive play.

For example:
you play run and gun in the first quarter with a full court defense, switch to patient and man to man in the second, then play low post and 1-3-1 in the third and then Princeton and 2-3 in the fourth quarter.

That would give more control to you as a manager and you have the impression being able to influence the gameplay dramatically by choosing clever tactics.

What do you think about that?

Happy New Year!


Last edited by Coach Ash at 1/8/2010 3:51:47 AM

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Date: 1/8/2010 3:54:05 AM
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i think that will only make the lineup page overloaded, and the rating even more useless. I don't see as clever tatics, this look more like epileptics.

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Date: 1/8/2010 1:09:27 PM
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What do you mean with epileptics? what do you mean with lineup page will be overloaded? It's a question of clever design, you're not obliged to put everything next to each other.

I didn't quite get your post. I hope you really had some constructive critics in mind and didn't just want to say something ridiculous. Can you please specify your argument?

I think in a basketball manager game the MANAGING and COACHING of the team should be the most important aspect. In a real game you can make adjustments and talk to your players and change tactics DURING the game. I absolutely agree that it is not fair to people who work and have important things to do to expect them stand in front of the monitor during the game.

Therefore I think a variation of tactics per quarter before the game should be possible. You're not obliged to make use of it. Maybe for people who don't want to set a different tactic for every quarter there should be a checkbox "apply tactics to all 4 quarters". But I think it is a lttle bit like watching just robots play during 48 minutes what their coach told them before the game to play.


Last edited by Coach Ash at 1/8/2010 1:10:41 PM

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Date: 1/8/2010 1:12:24 PM
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And before someone says:"It does it automatically", I want to say that very often I don't want the bot to do the modifications it does, just because the developpers of this game think that or this tactics is best in this and that situation. I would like to control that myself and have more power on the outcome of the game.

Thanks.

Last edited by Coach Ash at 1/8/2010 1:13:29 PM

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