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130264.7 in reply to 130264.6
Date: 2/3/2010 12:59:28 PM
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http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...

If you haven't read this yet than do it. Also DMI will increase after training, but it will also change as a function of game shape, so it is not a very reliable way to keep track of your training progress. Other than that there is no way other than just experience.

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Date: 2/3/2010 10:38:25 PM
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Great info.

Does salary change weekly or at the end of season?

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End of the season.

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Date: 2/4/2010 7:54:19 AM
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I am a little concerned about some of the responses you have got from player who are not experienced and mostly have copied other responses from other people in the forums.
The soft is in some way related to salary, mainly because high salary players have alot of skills. The soft cap is not just a salary level. Multiskilled players reach their caps much faster, it is also because of this that some say that there are different salary caps for different positions. I am certain that the respectable ID does affect his cap as much as if he was a center.
I hope this helps you understand potential better. And remember people doesnt know the formula and training speed also slowes down with age regardles of the potential cap.

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Date: 2/4/2010 10:16:54 AM
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Multiskilled players reach their caps much faster,


To clarify this - multiskilled players hit the cap at a lower salary. And I would not say it is a MUCH lower salary. A well-balanced SF seems to hit his cap in the $40-45K range, which is still getting close to $60K.

My observation is that there is probably just one cap formula for all players, which is why we see differences by position. Guard skills seem to count less towards the cap, in particular passing and handling.

Also, a multiskilled player does not hit his cap faster in terms of training time. My player Wendon took a lot longer, time wise, to hit his cap. Yes, his salary is lower, but training so many skills to high levels still takes time.

So conclusion: you can train a player longer, cap wise, if he is multi-skilled. Such a player is probably much more useful than the average allstar player and has a lower salary. So why does everyone want players with no secondary skills again?


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Date: 2/4/2010 10:29:56 PM
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Multiskilled players reach their caps much faster,

This is fiction.

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Date: 2/5/2010 5:52:46 AM
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As someone else pointed out "faster in terms of salary" or earlier. Is this also pure fiction?

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Date: 2/5/2010 9:38:13 AM
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As someone else pointed out "faster in terms of salary" or earlier. Is this also pure fiction?


I would say this is the truth, that multi-skilled players will hit the cap slightly earlier, salary wise, than a player with a few high skills.

However, some people believe in sub-levels for potential and that's why we see differences. I think the evidence points somewhere else, but I guess we can have the debate.

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Date: 2/5/2010 11:27:43 AM
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some people believe in sub-levels for potential

Potential clearly has sub-levels. Nearly identical players cap at different salaries all the time.

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Date: 2/5/2010 11:58:04 AM
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Nearly identical players cap at different salaries all the time.


Well, I would love to see your data on this. So far I have yet to see any evidence to support this theory. Usually the identical players you are talking about have different secondary skills, or people have differing definitions on when their player was capped. Some people take it to be the first sign of slow training, others think it is when training has virtually stopped (ie: one pop every 7-8 weeks).

My experience tracking 3 uni-skilled allstar Cs is they all capped at 3x tremendous in IS, ID and RB without any variation. Also, tracking 3 different SGs, they all capped towards the upper end of the capping estimate.

Was it just luck that I observed 6 different players with really high sub-levels in potential? Maybe, I do not know.

I think for now, unless you can provide the definitive proof of your theory, we are pretty much all in the dark.

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Date: 2/11/2010 8:30:30 AM
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Potential clearly has sub-levels. Nearly identical players cap at different salaries all the time.


Perhaps the latest post by BB-Charles might change your idea on the sub-levels theory: (130305.38). He says that there is only a correlation between salaries and potential and not a direct link. That's why "Nearly identical players cap at different salaries all the time". The key word in that sentence being "nearly", although I suspect if we broke it down we would find that the "nearly" is not as near as you think (maybe different sub-levels on different skills or multi-skilled players).

In any case, if you still think "Potential clearly has sub-levels" I am still waiting for the "clear" evidence.

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