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152188.7 in reply to 152188.6
Date: 7/20/2010 10:22:59 AM
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How is the current system more fair? In the current system a div 1 team could draw another div 1 team while there are div 4 teams that might draw 3 bots in a row.

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Date: 7/20/2010 10:29:35 AM
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I don't think it is fair for the tenth best team in the country to draw the best team in the country when there are bots that draw other bots.

I think something gives everyone exactly the same chance of a given outcome is inherently fair, by definition.

And this still doesn't change the fact national tournaments do a pretty good job of allocation the championship to the best teams in the country, which means you're trying to fix something that's not really broken.

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152188.10 in reply to 152188.9
Date: 7/20/2010 10:33:16 AM
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I don't think the cup is broken. I just know that almost every cup in the world has seedings. The reason they have seedings is to ensure the best team wins and to have a fairer draw.

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152188.11 in reply to 152188.10
Date: 7/20/2010 10:36:43 AM
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I just know that almost every cup in the world has seedings.

I am pretty certain you really haven't checked almost every cup in the world, so that's more of an educated guess.

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152188.12 in reply to 152188.11
Date: 7/20/2010 10:41:42 AM
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True, but do you know of any cups without seedings?

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152188.13 in reply to 152188.12
Date: 7/20/2010 10:54:06 AM
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The FA cup is unseeded, but the better teams don't enter until later rounds.

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152188.14 in reply to 152188.12
Date: 7/20/2010 10:54:35 AM
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How about the FA Cup?

The draw

The draw for each round is not seeded and is broadcast live on television, usually taking place at the conclusion of live coverage of one of the games of the previous round.




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152188.15 in reply to 152188.14
Date: 7/20/2010 11:06:24 AM
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As chris902 said, the better teams don't enter the cup until the later rounds. That is the same, or at least very similar to seeding.

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152188.16 in reply to 152188.15
Date: 7/20/2010 11:07:46 AM
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As chris902 said, the better teams don't enter the cup until the later rounds. That is the same, or at least very similar to seeding.

No it isn't.

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152188.17 in reply to 152188.15
Date: 7/20/2010 11:10:26 AM
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So why are many real-life cups seeded? Is it to better determine the winner? Or to maximize the entertainment value for the spectators? Or even to maximize revenue for the entire competition?

I think it's probably a combination of the last two (overlapping) constraints in the real world. Do those matter as much in BB? I tend to agree that the first constraint is being met reasonably well in BB.

Last edited by Mod-oeuftete at 7/20/2010 11:11:09 AM

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