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Ok, everybody just kicks at Ozzy...but is it right that the prices --> conditions for the game should vary this much in just a short time?

To get back to some objectivity:

In your last home game you received 134'480 $
Good staff (I have e.g. level 4, 4 and 5) can cost around 50'000-60'000 $ (the three together).

1) your ticket revenue would be more than enough to pay just the staff. If it's not, you should consider getting cheaper staff

2) Especially considering that you got relegated your ticket prices are way too high!

Bleachers : (Current Price: $20)
Lower Tier : (Current Price: $70)
Courtside Seats : (Current Price: $190)
Luxury Boxes : (Current Price: $1300)

The maximum prices are 20$, 70$, 200$ and 1600$ so you shouldn't be surprised to have almost no people watching your matches...
If you can avoid bankruptcy, change your ticket prices and you'll earn money again.

Ok, everybody just kicks at Ozzy...but is it right that the prices --> conditions for the game should vary this much in just a short time?

Yes and no.
I see no negative point in the game punishing you if you don't adapt to new circumstances. His new circumstances are that he got relegated and it's well-known that it's hard to fill your arena if you get relegated...

Good staff (I have e.g. level 4, 4 and 5) can cost around 50'000-60'000 $ (the three together).

Quite hard, not economical to change staff that often.

Good staff (I have e.g. level 4, 4 and 5) can cost around 50'000-60'000 $ (the three together).

Quite hard, not economical to change staff that often.

Those figures are just my current examples indeed.

I have my staff since 25/11, 25/11 and 17/12 and I haven't planned to change them again in the next weeks. Anyway, level 4 staff hardly costs anything so you might just as well replace them after a while.

Last edited by El Duderino at 1/19/2011 10:28:37 AM

Ok, everybody just kicks at Ozzy...but is it right that the prices --> conditions for the game should vary this much in just a short time?

Yes and no.
I see no negative point in the game punishing you if you don't adapt to new circumstances. His new circumstances are that he got relegated and it's well-known that it's hard to fill your arena if you get relegated...

I of course agree with this. But the thing is also the transfer prices...he is right that players bought for 6M today give you 1M...

I of course agree with this. But the thing is also the transfer prices...he is right that players bought for 6M today give you 1M...

But who told you to buy players for 6 million? I am sure the downwards trend was obvious then as well. You need to play the trend in your advantage. People make money too also in a bear market; actually the best brokers make money in a bear market. Any player can make money in a bullish market.

As well as setting the arena prices to maximum do not show the managers ability to adjust yourself to new conditions.

What people expect; managers keep making money forever? even while demoted?

The economy definitely has some problems, but nothing so drastic to quit over. They main problems is with the game engine / play by play, and coaching.



Last edited by JON at 1/19/2011 1:03:53 PM

I think it's fair to blame us on our mistakes, non-manager decision related mistakes. Unfortunately the start of the season hasn't been how we hoped it would have, and that's a huge understatemt. Part of the low revenues of your last game are caused by our failure, the season ticket holders bug. However, we finally think we found the problem so we hope to correct it shortly by adjusting the season ticket holders.
Currently we are still discussing what is the best way to handle the too many problems that arose during the first week of this season, we hope to find a good solution soon, since yeah, you guys certainly deserve better.

That having said, I don't think it's fair to blame us on mistakes that are related to bad manager choices. Reading your story, I also think that's a considerable part of your problems as well. You can't blame us for having 130k staff salaries, neither for making huge losses at auctions, neither for bad offseason planning. Maybe it's better to train your draftee up to a 2,5M player in 3 seasons, instead of selling it off for 300k now, who knows?

We will do anything to fix mistakes on our side, but one of the most exciting parts of this game is that you can actually be a better manager than your friend or rival. That you can outmanage him and going from a worse team to a better one. This is exactly the reason why we will try to keep our influence in manager decisions as low as possible. People should be able to make bad choices, just as they should be able to take their team from the bottom to the top.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/19/2011 5:53:54 PM