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210910.8 in reply to 210910.7
Date: 2/19/2012 2:20:35 PM
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I'm really not sure. I believe FTs count in the real life "points per shot" statistic, but that is a direct calculation, rather than an estimation like BB. I would assume no, because by and large I don't think FTs are a consistent variable- the game engine can somewhat predict how well a player will play based on their abilities (for example, a guy with a 15/11 JS/JR skill against a player with a 12 OD should have a calculable estimation) while I believe FTs are not as affirmatively built into the game engine, just because drawing shooting fouls (or drawing fouls when the other team is in the bonus) is more random than the likelihood of hitting, say, a 3pt shot.

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210910.9 in reply to 210910.2
Date: 2/19/2012 2:34:26 PM
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For me it shows bullshit.


Actually, it's called math. You should learn it. I am very confident that a computer can calculate a simple mathematical formula correctly. In the examples you made up, the statistic is by position, so bench players who put in time at that position will effect the result.

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210910.11 in reply to 210910.9
Date: 2/19/2012 11:43:28 PM
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For me it shows bullshit.


Actually, it's called math. You should learn it. I am very confident that a computer can calculate a simple mathematical formula correctly. In the examples you made up, the statistic is by position, so bench players who put in time at that position will effect the result.


Woe, no need to be condecending.

His point on why he thought it was bullshit was a valid one based on how he interpreted the ratings. And your explanation of it being a simple mathematical formula isnt correct either, at least it doesnt refute the point that he was making. The other explanations in this thread are far more accurate.

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210910.12 in reply to 210910.5
Date: 2/20/2012 12:00:49 AM
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It is because the game is about points. It takes into account the players' likelihood to shoot 2-pointers, 3-pointers, and (I assume) the likelihood that they will be aggressive enough to get free throws. Basically, it is a direct look into how effective the game engine says your players were in that specific game based on tactics chosen, the quality of opposing defense, etc.

It does not mean if he shot 100 times, he would score that many points. It means that if he shoots a set of 100 shots MANY times, the AVERAGE of all those points scored sets would be the statistic. There is an important distinction; one is a meaningless statistic (as you elegantly pointed out) and one tells you how effective that player was.

They chose 100 shots for the same reason that ESPN or your local sports channel include points per 100 possessions; it gives a number that is typically more relevant than points per individual shot. It is the same statistic, they just scale it so it is out of 100 rather than 1. It also indicates that it is a predictive measurement, not a measured statistic. Which even with it being out of 100, some people still miss this.

Personally, I like this statistic a lot. I switch up the offensive style I play frequently, and the most effective lineups for each play style are not always what I would intuitively think based on their individual ratings. I want my scorers getting the ball where they are most effective; depending on the offense, I want my good-scoring, poor passing G in either SG or SF spot. Otherwise he tries to pass too much, gets stuck with the ball cuz he sucks, shoots bad shots, and his pp100 shots goes down.

Last edited by boilerman013 at 2/20/2012 12:11:06 AM

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210910.13 in reply to 210910.5
Date: 2/20/2012 10:32:16 AM
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just see it like that i just throw the dice 6 time, i got 3 * threes 1* five and 2 * one.

The points per 100 shot statistik(or here dice throws) would still show me a 1/6 chanche to draw every number on the dice, instead of a 50% chanche to draw three something pretty useful, before betting with a 2:1 bet on throwing a three again.

this information is quite valuable if you like to see where you had advantage, and are you just lucky(or bad luck depending on the game) to draw so much "three" or was your player better. This index is really very important, since you can see defensiv liabilities or good scorer when scouting.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 2/20/2012 10:34:12 AM

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210910.14 in reply to 210910.13
Date: 2/20/2012 11:41:04 AM
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Ohh, got it atlast:D

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210910.15 in reply to 210910.13
Date: 2/20/2012 12:57:49 PM
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Good job clarifying what I've been trying to say lol +1 for you