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When you have to make changes this many seasons into the game there's no way to please everybody. There's nothing that can be done now, but ideally they would have accepted these changes needed to be made 10+ seasons ago when it was already clear that JR and SB needed to be looked at. Then changes could have been phased in slowly over time.

Like annual salary adjustments. We know they make an adjustment and that it's coming. In this case it was a large change that, if I'd have known many seasons ago that it was coming, could have made long term changes to training and team builds.

I kinda understand the frustrations about not announcing this change explicitly before hand, but I'll try to explain the combination of reasons why we didn't wait for another season.

The change doesn't come completely out of the blue. Since the season 24 news item we already mentioned we would be monitoring the effects of the SB change and that we might make any additional change if required. In this post (244443.27) I already mentioned we were also considering not only game engine effects, but also possible salary changes. Indeed, we never explicitly said we would make this particular change, but it's certainly one that should not have you completely caught offguard. The whole of season 24 we have still seen lots of discussion about the LI dominance, clearly there was a lot of doubt in the community if the change was sufficient of which one of the reasons is of course the lack of well trained shot blockers in game.

Now, when it comes to larger changes we indeed have always stuck to the planning argument; announce it at least a season in advance. You will see some of these announcements this season as well. And yes, for this salary adjustment we also discussed whether it would be better to just announce it for season 26 or apply it right away. Essentially it comes down to this; the change should not bring managers in huge trouble, as it should reduce costs overall (when we would increase overall salary it would be a whole different story) and since the change shouldn't be coming completely out of the blue I believe it's beneficial for the game enough to do it today rather than in 16 or so weeks. So yes, I understand this is not optimal when it comes to long term planning, but it's better to have a windfall than a setback, right? ;)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 09/18/2013 11:40:35

A Ball for the Headless Chicken. It is sooooooooo nice to see a post written by a BB. Thanks a million BB-Patrick.
Looks like I have some JR and SB training to do...

Thanks for your detailed explanation. I fully agree.

Sb and ID is really cheap i have a 9 11 10 guy his salry is 7k lol....And i think my center which is now listed as 32k salary pg got his salary increased by 3k cause of his 15 passing? or only it seems for me?

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 09/18/2013 12:56:26

I am really curious to find out who "we" might be . You show up on the forums every couple of months, the biggest issues of the game haven't been solved in YEARS and still its raining likes for your statement left and right.

The community is still undecided if the shotblocking change was helpful and now you do another change that not only comes out of the blue but will not show effects until like mid 2014, until then we will have less than 25k users and the downward spiral will turn faster and faster. Achievements are still bugged like its 1989 and as far as I see nodoby is really interested in this stuff.

I am puzzled how after all those years you still have not found a way to communicate with the userbase and how you are knowingly butchering the game...

Don't worry Knecht while I may show up only every couple of months, I still remember your infamous habit of projecting "I think" into "we think", quite ironic that you ask to find the "we", right?
If you replace all collective terms in your message with I, me or my, suddenly your message seems to be correct.

Well I guess ignoring a couple thousand users that left the game, might be a reason you think adressing my opinion as a single persons thought might be alright. You're doing it wrong! Srsly.

Actually you're not doing it right.....whatever gets done you will bitch about it anyway. That means at some point people stop taking you "srsly". There was a lot of complaining about SB not being strong enough....and since last season BB's are trying to change that but still you will always complain.

And have you actually polled all those users that left the game why they left? Maybe the problem is getting new users? Or getting them to stick around? Either way you don't know why they left and I doubt that someone that leaves within a few weeks has the same complaints as a regular guy that's been around here forever. So you might not be the best person to judge why they left.

Last edited by Tesse at 09/18/2013 18:25:25

Great change on the salary. An efficient method to making JR/SB more useful.

Also a great change to eliminate bot drafting. This is a super move to promote more useful drafts for new teams and increasing the chances of drafting a superstar or better in bot land. This will help new teams either get more money or build around a star.

Has any thought been put into making the transfer wire more effective? As in making more younger players available with decent starting skills? As is now, there are not many young/decent players around to train/build around. Most of them are either capped or too low to try to train. Having a 8-10K salary 21 year old free agents is a nice alternative to the current situation.

Also any thoughts on overpriced players? Can we have a mechanism where a player requires 2 bids to be sold or cannot be put on the waiver continually? Just some suggestions that would remove some teams from getting to the top just by making tons of money on transfers.