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The problem is, to make it fair, either every league has to have one of those super stud prospects every single season, or no league can ever have one. There's simply no way to have maybe 20 elite prospects spread out over the number of leagues that there are in BB that's equitable. But of course, if every league has one of those elite prospects, then the people tanking to get that pick will be even more rewarded and that behaviour will be even more encouraged. And nobody else will even need to worry about the draft, because with the number of elite prospects being drafted, nobody would be willing to settle for a 3.5k MVP when the TL is flooded with 4.5k HOF guys.

Sure, I can agree on this part. And I'm not against some randomness at all. But this is just one (minor) aspect of the draft, all the rest is what it is...
Don't blame people if they don't spend money on the draft, I'd like to see some numbers on this point from BBs: what's the avg money spent on the draft? Back when I was in V league, I saw probably the highest avg spent on scouts in my BB-life (around 8-9k). And that is because the V leave in Italy is the bottom - i.e. full of tankers. Last season in III people were spending below 4k, in IV league where I'm now 1.5k (and I'm the one spending 10k :D :D). Since a friend of mine 2 seasons ago spent 20k/week and got potentials 6,6,5 I can't blame him for not spending anything anymore (and a bot behind him drafted an MVP :D - best system ever).

Last edited by Biffo (*DT Member) at 9/24/2013 12:19:37 PM

I would be glad to spend money on it but only if then I can have something of concrete otherwise it's like bet in a lottery.

What is balance? There is no balance when the proportion isn't 1/1. There are a lot of users trying to get valuable players and a very few of those players on the world drafts.

In the long term it's balanced and fair. Check the same league for 25 consecutive seasons, there will be good and bad drafts.
I can guarantee you that users who get lower picks and invest heavy money in scouts, usually tend to get the better players. Of course it's not a rule and luck is important, but I can't see anything bad in that.

So in a managerial game you don't see how bad is to have luck > skill?
Because that's what I'm saying, draft is more luck then skills, unless you spend 40k/week. And even in this case, luck has fairly big role.
I agree that on the long term everything is balanced, I have no doubt, but I can't fail for 2-3-4 seasons and think "oh wait, in season 35 I'll have everything straight".

If you're having draft problems I feel bad for you son, I've got 99 problems but a draft ain't one.

I don't get what the OP is complaining about here. Witness went 0-22, presumably tanking, and got the first overall pick. There's a good chance that the manager also invested a large number of scouting points to ensure that he got the best player. The whole point of the draft is that there are no guarantees; only ways to increase your chances. In this case it paid off for Witness.

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 9/24/2013 1:40:54 PM

What are or what should be the skills required to pick good players?
How to implement the "draft skills" in this game?


PS. You said it! So spend 40k/week if you want to get chances.

In this case: skills = money

And I'm glad we agree: if you don't spend 40k just forget the draft. Basically spending 5, 10, or 20k are money thrown out of the window.

Problem with the draft is that one season you will find 5 STUD players and for the next three seasons garbage and worse players.

What we need is a youth team system, where you get what you spend - I suggested that years ago, but we know whats possible here and what not.

Drafting makes absolutely no sense in a league system like that, where teams promote and demote. The game does not emulate US pro sports with closed ecosystems where you have to find ways to place goop players in bad teams. Plus, it is highly unfair that teams can get lucky in the lottery and make truckloads of money just because. Just take a look at my leagues draft of this season - 99% percent of the players are worth less than a pile of crap and then you find the pinnacle of the draft class selling for seven digit numbers.

If every team had a youth squad, where you could spend from xk to xxk per week, and you could define what type of player you want, it would finally make training and growing your own players worthwhile. Plus ith would help smaller nations develop somewhat competitive national team players.

Its not like selling one special player for a lot of money is a big deal, but 2.6 million in this economy is a gamechanger - with money like that you can get one to three finished players that will rock the league - its a slap in the face of every other team in the league that has to work hard for its money and success when somebody gets lucky like that.

Just as a comparison:
winning the cup: 300k
winning the league: up to 1mil
winning B3: 1 mil

So drafting THE player is like winning it all in one season - if you think thats fair...

I would love to see a youth academy on BB, it would bring more fun to game. Think its impossible, but its just a wish from one user ^^

I would love to see a youth academy on BB, it would bring more fun to game. Think its impossible, but its just a wish from one user ^^

I would enjoy that also.

I might also think that changing the draft pools entirely might not be bad. Instead of 18 and 19 year old guys with crappy potential/skills, maybe instead have guys be up to age 23 or so, with star - perennial allstar potential tops and at skill levels that are probably below what an 18 year old would have reached but maybe with interesting builds.