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Thanks for digging out the thread of D-League suggestion ... That's a nice idea anyway.

It will never happen, it is a big coding job and they like doing simple coding jobs but lets fantasise for a bit.

The problems
*Training rookies costs you games especially in upper leagues so top teams often don't develop their players which is totally unrealistic.
*Training out of position costs you games so is also a no-on in lots of leagues.
*High level teams usually just fire all their draft picks rather than waste the time and energy to develop them.
*People want to be able to train some different things at the same time.

The Solution: D-League
*Each team would have the option to spend a non-trivial amount, say $200,000 to establish a D-League feeder team.
*This would be a seperate team from your main team with the exception that once a week you could transfer a player between the two teams. (When first established you could move as many players to the D-League team as you wanted for about a week)
*D-league would have age, salary and potential caps. It should be limited to players 25 and under, of salary $10,000 or lees and of potential perennial allstar. You don't see old guys, stars or guys who go on to amazing careers in the D league 99% of the time.
*D-League teams have to pay salary, have their own doctor, PR and trainer. (If you just want the minimum you canhave a level four trainer and two basic guys for $14,000 a week,your trainee and a few $1,000 players making the total $20-30,000 a week.
*D-League game is on Sunday night giving plenty of time to call the key trainee up for the real team's scrimmage if things go badly.
*In Hattrick there were even new players that popped up in your D-Legue team that you could recruit. So maybe there could also be a D-League draft but capped at allstar potential.
*D-League teams compete in real leagues and have real champoinships and trophies.
* D-League teams can make a ittle income but it shouldn't over their costs.

I think this would be a ton of fun and very interesting. Will never happen though.

Last edited by yodabig at 10/4/2013 1:08:28 AM

I like all your suggestions except this:

D-league would have age, salary and potential caps. It should be limited to players 25 and under, of salary $10,000 or lees and of potential perennial allstar.

Perennial allstar players are being trained by D.IV and D.III teams. Sometimes a D.II or D.I team wants to have a player in U21 and could send him to D-league because they can't develop him in their league, but that's rare.

Anyway, what good does D-league do for D.IV and D.III teams anyway? Even with only one season of training under their belt, trainees are good enough to play in D.IV (starters) and D.III (backups). And they don't have money for D-league anyway.

D-league could benefit D.I and D.II the most. But you would create even greater quality gap between D.I and D.II (or D.III) , so the money D.I and D.II spend for D-league could be spread among teams in lower leagues.

Btw, D-league and U21 can't coexist IMO without some restrictions...let's say a player who spent more than one season (14 weeks) in D-league is not eligible for U21.

Last edited by Koperboy at 10/4/2013 3:14:02 AM

Btw, D-league and U21 can't coexist IMO without some restrictions...

Well I already had some but if we lowered the potential max for D-League to all star then the U21 problem would be gone as almost no allstars make U21 teams in major nations.

Anyway, what good does D-league do for D.IV and D.III teams anyway?

Well it depends on the nation, there is a big diference between Pakistan and Espania. Taking Australia as an example there are lots of tough teams in division III that have salaries above $200,000 and are fighting to win every match. Being able to maximise their in game strength while still training a rookie in the D-League is a huge benefit and well worth $20,000 a week.

Even with only one season of training under their belt, trainees are good enough to play in D.IV (starters) and D.III (backups).

Division IV is true but there is a massive leap here in division III where many division III backups are in the $10,000 range, certainly not a $4,000 19 year old trainee (who you will have to get play a full game against $20,000 starters to maximise training).

But it is all academic this will never happen.

Maybe it will happen someday. The biggest problem for BB right now is you don't have anybody with the needed time to delve into the code and make major changes - Marin can only do so much. But if we talk about ideas, maybe BBs will look into it once they find someone who can modify code enough to make these changes. Maybe it will not happen in 3-4 seasons' time, but I'll be happy also if it happens after 8 seasons (2 years from now IRL).

I still don't understand why, with a global product, they don't hire some programmer from India or Nigeria for $5 an hour.

Probably because they don't want their product to leak somewhere...

But you are right, they should hire someone. I was just browsing yesterday for other basketball games and BB has the biggest user base by far. Second biggest userbase is something like 22k. So even with all the dropping in userbase, we are still firmly in first place.

cause they will go and sell it for a meal to feed their family.

anyways.... i think this D-league is a possibility, if, as ive said in another thread i think, if, they dont have actual game engine driven games.

So basically, you would pay your money, have a 'nominated player' play in the D-league as per yoda's comments..... and thats it. you dont have to worry about setting a lineup, or tactics, or any stuff like that, just a little message to say
Player X will be trained in blah this week.
don't even worry about minutes/game shape/stats......
have them automatically stay at Respectable game shape, so if you bring them back into your normal roster there is no worries there.

the only issue as others have said - how would this benefit the lower leagues? Sure asking a Div II or III team to pay up $200k a season is useful, but not for Div V.

BUT i do have an added suggestion which may help with this......... Instead of it being just a straight 'take away $20k per week'... why not have it integrated as part of the draft.scouting points?
So you can choose between scouting points, or putting $$ into a D-league player. At least that way, the lower divisions don't have to come up with additional cash AND, seeing as though most of the teams in the upper leagues don't spend money on scouting points and utilise the draft, it gives them another option there.

D League could benefit D5 teams to a certain extent, although it would be hard.

It would open another training slot for your trainees. Maybe in the League team you can train a guard, and in the D League train a big man. In the D League, you can have the youngsters gain exp. while the Big Guns go out there and get minutes. To some extent, the D5 guy can make his D League team useful (ie getting another training spot) But 200k a season, is ehhhhhhh

hope you get what i mean.

It will never happen but the $200,000 was just a once off cost to establish the new team. From then on it is just the running costs which I am assuming can be partially offset if the team is successful on the court.

It will never happen

Stop being so negative - did you see how quickly they implemented the 'Bid Confirmation' suggestion? So you never know!

Or are you trying to spite the BB's into making it? haha