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welcome Kingguley

lots of good comments here, so i won't repeat much of what other people have said.

I found during the course of my BB experiences, that it was good to try and 'copy' someone else's team in a few ways, at least to give you some direction and an idea about what you should be aiming for.

so you can actually look at other teams in your league, and see their arena sizes. cool aye? as you will see, some of the better teams in your league have arena capacity of 16,000 seats. So long term (and i mean, 5 seasons long term) thats something to aim for. short term, over the course of the next 2 seasons, you probably want to be sitting at around 10,000 seats. (And don't worry about ticket pricing just yet, that will come later once your arena is bigger).

In my opinion, you need 30+ draft points to really delve into the draft. I tend to only draft every 2-3 seasons. Draft points carry over into next season, so you can keep them.

game shape is a concept that took me a few seasons to realize, so don't worry that ur unaware of it. But looking at ur roster, it is something that you can work on. Try to play your players for only 50-80 minutes per week to begin with (easy target). this should start to improve their gameshape. Search the game manual and the forums for more information about gameshape and what it does . Now that you are out of the cup, you should find this a bit easier.

but yer ur asking good questions so thats good ur working towards a bigger goal so sounds like u are well into BB so thats good!

Thanks everyone for the much needed advice :)

On #2. I would get a pg 1st. sf are not that hard to train unless you want a very very rare dynamic skilled one that will be your lebron james , kobe byrant, Melo . Kevin durant if you will. Those are worth every effort in time to make.

Dont worry about pf /C those are dime a dozen on the game. I would get a all young team, no old time veterans. In 8-12 season of training them you'll get a huge cap to use. You can win games as well as you do so with a young strong team. I think it all start with a strong dynamic Pg. In my small opinion a good dynamic pg who can win game is harder to create than a dynamic sf. They have their in and outs ,

But I would take a Pg everytime to start my program . If you can get and train both at thesame time. Your going to be very very hard to beat. A decent young/old big man can be found onthe market, but are easy to create more than a dynamic pg/ and sf becuase of cost.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 2/10/2014 3:01:43 PM

dear mr. glass please stop trolling people with your advices because its really not funny anymore.

On #2. I would get a pg 1st. sf are not that hard to train unless you want a very very rare dynamic skilled one that will be your lebron james , kobe byrant, Melo . Kevin durant if you will. Those are worth every effort in time to make.

last time i checked SFs are the hardest thing to train and there is a good reason why they are so expensive.
if u think that sf is somebody with 20 JS and rest of the skills on 2,3,4 thats not SF and ofc thats not hard to train but if u want a SF that can shot and defend u will spend at least 5,6 seasons on training.
now problem is not the time but the problem is that if u want to train OD and PA u need to play him as PG,if u want ID and IS u have to play him as C and anyone with decent team will pound u over that player especially when your guy plays at C.
that means losing games and that again leads to losing money as your fan survey wont be anywhere near level where u want it to be if u arent tanking and that again means u cant and wont promote as HCA makes a big difference.

Dont worry about pf /C those are dime a dozen on the game. I would get a all young team, no old time veterans. In 8-12 season of training them you'll get a huge cap to use. You can win games as well as you do so with a young strong team. I think it all start with a strong dynamic Pg. In my small opinion a good dynamic pg who can win game is harder to create than a dynamic sf. They have their in and outs ,

again wrong.
you are mixing terms as u wont find a solid PF that can actually play in 3rd league anymore under 1M.
if u want 2 trees under basket with IS,ID and RB on 15+ and everything else on 1,2,3 than be my guest.
about training; building a classic tree is easy and its fast and u dont need to play it on other positions and thats the whole reason why Cs are cheap.
another downside of that is their wages go into sky very very fast.
heads up,very few players trained/are training Cs last few seasons so we can expekt prices to go up on that part too.

But I would take a Pg everytime to start my program . If you can get and train both at thesame time. Your going to be very very hard to beat. A decent young/old big man can be found onthe market, but are easy to create more than a dynamic pg/ and sf becuase of cost.

u know why poland is on top of the world?
salary efficient players.PGs with 12+ IS...
now think about that one ;)
and let me show u what im talking about

Croatian NT wages:3,541,319
Polish NT wages:3,079,792

difference when u compare top 12 players is even bigger.

result (26518)
PS. same ent ;)

In addition:
* Trainer, atleast level Advanced right now. (Same goes for PR and Doctor imo, get these two right before next season) Not too expensive, check out a few deadlines to get a clue on what the prices are for a Staff with a certain salary. Try to get as low salarys as possible since the increase wit hevery week.
* Train Anson, Jiang and Shönhammer, the three with reasonable age and potential (seek to replace them in the beginning of next season) 1 position, maybe OD(pressure) and PA(passing) for PG:s. Play Shönhammer in scrimmage =)
* BUILD ARENA! More important them adding players to roster.
Get the infrastructure(Arena, Staff, Training, Economics) of the club ready for the next step before you actually take it!
I see no real danger of relegation, nor any chance of promoting in this or the next season, so no need to rush things. Build patiently

If read what i said. i say more clearly. I said if you want a very dynamic sf meaning very very good one(rare). Its very hard and expensive. A very dynamic point cguard is way more expensive than a dynamic Sf. We can dis agree on that becuase we have our own principles and likes.

A dynamic Pg going up, will win you more games than a dynamic sf in his starts, You can say you have to do off training, rightfully so. Now if your smart, you would use scrimmages and Private league matches just for that not actual league games( off traning). The whole point is to get as much training as possible.To train toward these 2 players types. A big man is dime a dozen. It not hard to find big man. Find me a dynamic point guard or sf.. Its like pulling hen teeth. Only way he is goign to get it is to train it. Which is think the best way, go for both.

I also disgree with your assetment that you find cant be big man for under 1 million. That is highly false.I have seen team go all the way to top with lesser big men players. A dynamic pg will always cost alot of money, a sf wont unless he dynamically skilled. They key is word here is highly skilled. Agian im not just talking about just training a player . Im talking about 15-20's in every slot here. Then tactic play a huge part in his actual worth for the team. The winning. Every great team on this game had a great dynamic pg, not many had a dynamic sf. That not saying to easier to get or harder . Its saying it better to get becuase of tactic worth. As i said before it would better for him to get both.

A dynamic pg will win you more games , harder to stop, than the dynamic sf all they have to do is put a Center/ or dynamic sg on him. With a pg they cannt do that. you know why.A dynamic pg is a floor general . The higher skill the more dominate he becomes which means passing, reb. steals. the whole 9, the greater the tactic to his skills, the more lethal. As far as my personal understanding goes. I have seen more dynamic Sf stopped than pg in big games.

As far as (is) and all economic saving for NT thats a wonderful thing. My whole point is to win games early. 3pts is worth more than 2pts. Assist are worth their salts in close games. Those are the things manager will have to master early to be successful. If a team want to start with dynamic sf that a long, long road, they will need to understand 1 player cant do it alone( which mean lose for awhile as they build him). A dynamic pg can do it alone, you know why? Thats his job. (As a dynamic pg gets better so does the team, yes it highly costly but its worth it inthe lonmg haul). I cant speak for every team on here, but thats how i see when i look around.

Thats how i see it. The more great player he can bring up the better. He shouldn't just go for 1 great player. Balanced teams win more than one way team. My ending point



Last edited by Mr. Glass at 2/11/2014 1:42:08 PM

Thats not my general point. As a experienced manager you should read the rest of sentences. The whole point is to get as much trianing as possible. That does not mean direct training, it means to make the player adjust to the train'n he will be getting long term. Its called placing him in tactic to be effective something you should know.

But i doubt you'll read that far to understang my gerneral points.I know you'll look for holes to say this or that which i think is very petty.

My ending point was my whole point in a nut shell. Maybe you cant start right there. He should build both*.As far as the rest of post he can void it becuase it wasnt directed to the op but my replyr. Its my personal assesment to him not the op.

But to the Op he should get and train both aswell as build arena.

you are kidding me right?
all round build sf will win you games and putting sg and for sure c wont help for sure.
now 90% of us play LI as our main offense but as u know even in LI there are a lot of jumpers.
if u put big man your sf will rape that C apart.
let me give u couple of examples.its croatian 3rd league and standard should be around USA 4th(dont have enough time to check rosters around usa leagues atm) and it should be familiar to u.

SF vs SF
(66063519)

my opponents SF 50k salary(JS monster)
mine 20k salary(all rounder)
rating:
12,5 - 13,5

(66063535)
28k vs 20k
9,0 - 13,5

(66063550)
28k vs 20k
10,5 vs 11,5

SF vs PG
(66063578)
31k vs 20k
9,0 vs 12,0
especially check this game ;)

if u want ill play him next game on PF so ull see how it plays out against trees :)