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26083.7 in reply to 26083.6
Date: 4/25/2008 3:03:01 AM
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If I understand well, the trainer should have more preferences which will affect more aspects of the game

there are plenty of different things, which in real depends even on a trainer -

enthusiasm (how increase, decrease)

training focus (one is better to train inside skills than the other)

coaching (he should be better or worse on a tactical side (substitutions etc) during a game)

potential sense (he better "see" real potential of your players)

motivation (how you'll get or fall on a Game Shape)

attendeance (Important for the trainer too - how he talk on TV, he'll get a fans to the stadium)

rehabilitation (sense to avoid injury of a players)

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and more of these - I used only above mentioned preferences

another question is how we could get these trainers - they will show to us random like on the present or there should be for them any other system?

Last edited by Iordanou at 4/25/2008 3:04:27 AM

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26083.8 in reply to 26083.7
Date: 4/25/2008 4:04:32 AM
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i figured getting coaches would follow along the same lines as HT...you search for a coach and someone comes up. but the skills of the coaches will improve as you train them. showing up at random like it does now really isn't that great.

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26083.9 in reply to 26083.8
Date: 4/25/2008 4:23:21 AM
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about the improvement of trainers - I don't think that this is a good idea

you could see by the time that rich clubs, which are on BB for a long time will have a best trainers and will invest to them a lot of money to get theirs level higher.. but what about these which are on III-V division?

I mean clubs, which will be on this game for a long time, will have a huge advantage, thanks to this "educational" system

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26083.10 in reply to 26083.9
Date: 4/25/2008 4:28:06 AM
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I mean clubs, which will be on this game for a long time, will have a huge advantage, thanks to this "educational" system



You are right. They have huge advantage just for playing BB longer. There is no need to make this advantage larger:)

From: Iordanou

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26083.11 in reply to 26083.10
Date: 4/25/2008 4:41:06 AM
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that's why I asked before about the wages, my slovakian brother:)

there is a categoric rule:

If will preferences of our staff depend more on the amount of our cash ballance, more advantage will get these teams just for a money

and on a education it depends even on a time you play BB, so that is even worse

anyway I think that in basic is the idea about more preferences of our staff/trainer really good idea, the main problem which we need to think about - is a hiring system - how we will hire them - like now or how?

From: ZyZla
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26083.12 in reply to 26083.11
Date: 4/26/2008 6:55:16 AM
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I think there should be unemployed-staff market there we would suggest them salary like we suggesting price for players... contract length should be something around 1-2 seasons... After contract is finished your staff make offer to you what salary he would want for extend contract (more 1-2 seasons) if you want agree with his price he would go to the market and would be employed by the best offer...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
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26083.13 in reply to 26083.12
Date: 4/26/2008 1:05:36 PM
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From this market should be possible to pick any trainer you want - not on that way that if one team pick Barlett, noone can after him.. I think

There will be always a dilema for everyone - which trainer to pick? That's nice

From: ZyZla

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26083.14 in reply to 26083.13
Date: 4/26/2008 4:09:35 PM
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Yes I had in my mind exactly that if you got that coach so no one else could get him... As well could be coaches courses for money... So you would invest your own money to train your coach but you`d not have any guarantee that after his contract will be finished you`ll still be able to keep him... He could ask too big salary for next 1-2 seasons.... I just really like one formula 1 online manager staff market... (GPRO.se)... That would be really realistic and interesting...

Coach could be in game max 10 seasons, then some newbie would change him... Just for don`t have too many max lvl coaches...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
From: Iordanou

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26083.15 in reply to 26083.14
Date: 4/26/2008 6:32:49 PM
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WRONG!

if you get a coach, noone else could get him? That mean if someone will be a first, second one is just unlucky?

big salary? Train coach?


everything wrong, Zyzla, please

From: ZyZla

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26083.16 in reply to 26083.15
Date: 4/26/2008 9:23:20 PM
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it`s just a suggestion... that means I suggesting that it would be staff market... no more same staff like now is...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
From: Iordanou

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26083.17 in reply to 26083.16
Date: 4/27/2008 3:42:09 AM
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interesting suggestion by the way, but it is not that easy and we have to look at some aspects of that solution

I must put here that I feel sorry for my slightly unassertive attitude above, I came home totally drunk last night:)

So at the point -

If there will be any market with a free agents, only barrier to catch/not catch them would be a level of salary.

That's not good, because we would have here by the time agents, which would have 40k-90k wage and only way to get those will be to be with your club at top of the league table or on the highest league and noone will put you down, because noone will have so good staffers...

That means we miss here any aditional aspect which will makes for us any other dilema to take/not take best trainer or there is missed an aspect which will (not) make it possible to get a best one...

Because if there will be any market, the interest will come from many clubs and is wrong to think that the fastest club could get him or richest and fastest one:)

Normally in real world it works according to a club's reputation. If you want to get a best free staff, you will pay him - but it is even upon to him if he want to be hired by you - according to your progress. BTW it works even by this way that you will offer a contract to staff which is already hired by the other club - if you pay to this club any penalty (if it is on the contract).

...but I'm sure that this would be for a many users very complicated, staff management isn't for everyone

So for the point - If there will be any staff market with a free agents - we need at least 1 more aspect in advance to get them - not only a salary or how fast you are..

what do you think?

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