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281266.7 in reply to 281266.6
Date: 8/31/2016 11:37:33 AM
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Personally given the choices, for us the best answer is to let each new u21 coach have his own people. He has to work closely with them, and I wouldn't want to see whoever it is being forced to work with people they can't work well with.

Having said that I think anyone is going to prefer people who've done the work before so in many cases under both scenarios you'll still see the same people being used. I also feel that in ideal circumtances the u21 coach should be someone who has worked with the u21s before, as we've done before, with Vecx following Morwood.

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Date: 9/1/2016 6:53:02 PM
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Sorry for taking timeto reply. Away fromhome with a poor android laptop with moderate battery and dodgy keypad...

Anyway my answer would be similar to Gully's. Basically contct as many managrs with relevant players and give as much advice as needed, trying to focus on those most likely to make it...

Also, as in my speech, to provide a training document, like Morwood did in the past, although hopefully to exapand and improve on, but probably referencing Morwoods. When contacting managers a link to that would be noted...

[OK updated to hopefully make more reaadable as space bar and other keys dont work well]

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281266.9 in reply to 281266.6
Date: 9/1/2016 7:38:34 PM
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Again sorry forthe late reply. Away from home with a dodgy laptop with bad keypad...

Basically I'm not totally sure. However I think the managers/coaches shoud do the legwork themselves to know whats out there and to make sure they communicate with relevant prospects. In a cricketgame I play online that is very easy for me at U19 INT level now. Though in BB if its more time consuing there maybe more need for delegation..

To me the most important issue is possibly for managers to get 4 (possibly longer) seasons to fully see through their training advice for 18/19yo prospects. With a 2 season term you are at the mercy of the previous U21 training plan advice. You are always at the mercy and the quality of drafted playersand their managers training to some extent. I suppose the 2 season term has good and bad sides and you can always get mangers re-elected if they show promise. I know from the cricket game it's easy for a lesser nation to go through 10+seasons without getting great talent, no matter how good you are at searching/ giving trainng advice, to some extent there's little you can do to influence the talent. BB setup means U21 training is more important though as their is no seperate regular youth league games, just an internationl structure...

[OK updated tomake it readable]

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281266.10 in reply to 281266.3
Date: 9/1/2016 7:42:24 PM
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Also like your speechm8 ;)

Nice to see an elction without fighting, bickering, etc..

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Date: 9/2/2016 10:16:05 AM
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No need ro reinvent the wheel Morwood. Just having that good documnet visible to England's managers is a big help in itself ;)

With a bit of time/effort I thinkit can be updated/improved significantly though...

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Date: 9/3/2016 9:35:13 AM
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I don't think we're going to have time to debate here, but whichever one of us wins this election is going to have to take into account the changes being talked about regarding what I would call inside guards. We've no idea atm how far this will go and I suspect the short sighted panic seen already may be excessive but still, its probably going to be a factor in forming training plans, especially for NT.