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First, I like how many changes they are making. Not just 1 or sitting on their hands altogether.

Second, the link the the BB final game doesn't work in the news post.

Thought a slight adjustment to salary for secondaries was fair, not a fan of seeing a stronger adjustment coming next year. I may have wasted the last 3 seasons training secondaries trying to build bigs for my princeton/patient team that could defend against LI.

And really not a fan of the promotion rules, or the boycott. The way I build a team is to build from the ground up, compete for a couple seasons, sell off and 'trust the process'. I liked the ability to compete for a few seasons, then focus on training for a few seasons. Now it seems like you have to be perpetually competing, and have made it really difficult to build up assets. I think that will just hinder younger teams, and discourage folks for risking it to go for it all because building back up will take so long.

Overall, I'm not sure whether the way I enjoy playing the game is in line with BB thinks it should be played. Fortunately I have some assets built up, so I'll have a chance to take another shot at BBB before considering whether to stick around.

Last edited by Fresh24 at 12/10/2016 19:30:57

Changing the relegation system is total bogus and I hope this decision is heavily reviewed before it is implemented, if it is even implemented at all. I do get that we want to make earning a promotion a bit easier, especially since I've seen great teams who deserve it miss out due to play-off injuries. But forcing teams to either make the play-offs or risk relegation is unfair, especially on teams who have just promoted and need a reasonable opportunity to stabilise in the division they have been bumped up to.

I think back to my first ABBL season. I did a lot better than I expected to and finished 13-9, but just missed the play-offs and finished 5th. Is it really fair on a team that wins 59% of games in their first season at the top, to force them to play a relegation series to survive, even if they would have HCA for it?

What BB is proposing is that six teams out of a total of sixteen get relegated every season in any given league. I have never seen any league in real life that features promotion and relegation do this. I didn't like the fact that HatTrick made it top four or possible bust (just one more thing I didn't like about it), and I do not like that proposal here either.

This is the bed that BB made by having a 1-4-16-64 league pyramid in the first place. The only way I can see this working fairly for both promotion and relegation is by migrating to a 1-3-9-27 pyramid... but that creates problems of its own during the transitional season/s.

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 12/10/2016 23:12:26

I dont like the promotion system too. I can see situations when team with guaranteed best record do the sell out before the last game of the season.
Dont understand the salary formula change. We have been encouraged to train balanced players by changes to the training system some time ago (elastic effect or whatever it was called) and now we are gonna pay more salaries.
Dont like the boycott and salary floor changes. Now, with extremely high prices on tl, many teams that promoted cant even afford to get to the salary floor in the first season after promotion.
Like draft improvements but I dont get too excited about it until I see it.
Also like micronations problem solution, more tutorial rewards for new users and roster limit.

Last edited by LukeRev at 12/11/2016 00:02:40

The higher salary floor and the competitiveness measure is trolling at its finest. Info was released after the first season game, when one would expect that the roster for the upcoming season should be set.

I dismantled my roster to tank and this change completely blindsided me, I am soooo excited!!! Where can I donate my money?

Im really happy about the fan boycott. Its just unrealistic what happened before. You loose games on purpose and become rich? Totally stupid.

What I dont get, is the planned change in the playdowns. Six teams per league would demote then each season? Thats way too much. The current system is the best.

Dont change things which are good.

Will there actually be a general vote about it? Would be a nice idea

And really not a fan of the promotion rules, or the boycott. The way I build a team is to build from the ground up, compete for a couple seasons, sell off and 'trust the process'. I liked the ability to compete for a few seasons, then focus on training for a few seasons. Now it seems like you have to be perpetually competing, and have made it really difficult to build up assets. I think that will just hinder younger teams, and discourage folks for risking it to go for it all because building back up will take so long.
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But thats just totally unrealistic.
And its more difficult to stay strong than just safe money and buy all good players you see for too much money.
Including the fan boycott, long-term investments are honoured. FINALLY!

I would even decrease income in all ranges.
Nobody would visit a match of a team, which looses all matches by more than 50 points. Nobody!