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From: CitB
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31047.7 in reply to 31047.6
Date: 5/15/2008 9:12:48 AM
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do i have to pay for my trades of the past 14 weeks?

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31047.8 in reply to 31047.6
Date: 5/15/2008 9:14:30 AM
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Well you can feel sorry for the day traders... personally I feel sorry for the thousands of new teams that are now going to be scared s@*%tless to enter the market through fear of worrying about money being taken away from them in the future...

Good bye transfer market..... only the mega players and very high potential will retain any type of value....


I don't agree. The changes will only reduce the amount of daytrading. My only problems are:

1) There are a couple of points allready mentioned that are not clear and seem contraddictory

2) The changes seem retroactive. Retroactive changes are in general bad in a strategy game.

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Date: 5/15/2008 9:46:10 AM
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Well you can feel sorry for the day traders... personally I feel sorry for the thousands of new teams that are now going to be scared s@*%tless to enter the market through fear of worrying about money being taken away from them in the future...

Good bye transfer market..... only the mega players and very high potential will retain any type of value....


inteligent daytraders have big arena, strong team and money on account now.... we can buy whatever players which we want ( specially after comming market brake ) ... this means no bad future for daytraders :-D :-D :-D

From: zekick

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31047.10 in reply to 31047.2
Date: 5/15/2008 9:46:54 AM
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on the number of trades a team has made in the past 14 weeks. If you have only made a couple of trades, you will be charged the normal sales tax; if you have traded a lot recently

how many trades are only "a couple of trades", how many trades are "a lot"?


Do the "old" changes from the beginning of the season still apply?


These are really important issues. If you buy or sell one player a week you should not be considered to be a day trader. I hope you do not get punished if you traded 14 players in the last 14 weeks. Else I would be very concerned about the TM, due to lack of liquidity (only players put on the TL with aberrant starting prices) because users are only going to trade players if they are compelled to due to economic difficulties. A too small numbers of “free trades” will especially punish users that are focusing on training a specific position and improve their team by buying better player for the other positions.

Lets say I train PF. I sell 2 of them each season and buy 2 trainees to replace them. With the money earned I do upgrade my team e.g. 1 PG, 1 SG, 1 SF and 1 C and I also sell 1 of my former player for each position. This makes a total of 12 trades. Then may be I am going to be punished by the game engine and have 3 times 8 weeks of injury. For not being demoted I will have to replace them which will make 6 more trades (3 sales and 3 buys). I do have already 18 trades within 14 weeks without being a DT at all. So please my friendly BB-staff be somehow generous when interpreting “a couple of trades in the past 14 weeks”.




Last edited by zekick at 5/15/2008 9:55:00 AM

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31047.11 in reply to 31047.10
Date: 5/15/2008 10:14:20 AM
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New rules suck because i get -170 000 $ every week if i don't have the home game in same week. Where i can get money?? Drop the salaries then if u want make those horrible rules. Or figure other way to solve this problem!

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Date: 5/15/2008 10:16:12 AM
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Well you can feel sorry for the day traders... personally I feel sorry for the thousands of new teams that are now going to be scared s@*%tless to enter the market through fear of worrying about money being taken away from them in the future...

Good bye transfer market..... only the mega players and very high potential will retain any type of value....


inteligent daytraders have big arena, strong team and money on account now.... we can buy whatever players which we want ( specially after comming market brake ) ... this means no bad future for daytraders :-D :-D :-D



Hey! Who are you calling intelligent??!!

If all the DT's go on strike... wheres the liquidity in the market going to come from?

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31047.13 in reply to 31047.6
Date: 5/15/2008 10:17:58 AM
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Good bye transfer market..... only the mega players and very high potential will retain any type of value....


Na this will even out. If the other players will drop in value, then the teams will have more money to spend, so the prices will go up again.


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Date: 5/15/2008 10:18:36 AM
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Lets say I train PF. I sell 2 of them each season and buy 2 trainees to replace them. With the money earned I do upgrade my team e.g. 1 PG, 1 SG, 1 SF and 1 C and I also sell 1 of my former player for each position. This makes a total of 12 trades. Then may be I am going to be punished by the game engine and have 3 times 8 weeks of injury. For not being demoted I will have to replace them which will make 6 more trades (3 sales and 3 buys). I do have already 18 trades within 14 weeks without being a DT at all. So please my friendly BB-staff be somehow generous when interpreting “a couple of trades in the past 14 weeks”.


Dont forget to factor in the GS drops as well... and the fan loss when selling players...


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31047.15 in reply to 31047.14
Date: 5/15/2008 10:31:46 AM
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let's not exhagerate here.

I think it is still very possible to trade some players, even realy daytrading them without any negative effects, but not that much that huge amounts of money could be gained.

I think BB is aware that trading off 10 players or so is quite common and possible for any team. It's the teams that are trading multiple players weekly , or even daily, that are targetted here. No need to panic !!

After all they try to limit the daytrading here, not just whiping it away entirely! Keep this in mind.

They are not your friends; they dispise you. I am the only one you can count on. Trust me.
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31047.16 in reply to 31047.15
Date: 5/15/2008 10:37:25 AM
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Well I havent watched the market as much as i used to but the DT's that most people use to refer to have been relatively inactive for a while now (me included).

If there are DT's still operating they are having to break their balls to turnover anything in the current market climate and with these new rules its going to be near on impossible... oh and just when you think you've made a nice healthy profit now you can bank on someone out there who's a little bit jealous to file a cheat report so the transfer is investigated....

i will maintain my stance.

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31047.17 in reply to 31047.16
Date: 5/15/2008 11:09:40 AM
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I have been trading some time too, maybe not directly 'day'trading, but some trades surely where. I only did it in the time I found it easy, and that is a long time ago. When the taxes where brought in the game I stopped entirely.

In the meantime people are still yelling that daytraders make too much profit, so BB took extra mesures. I'm sure that traders who are still active (and who are geniusses in my eyes because they can do something I can't) will be discouraged to go on.

The thing bothering me is that it is possible that a team who does not trade could be affected by these extra mesurements, maybe only once in so many time, but still 1 is too much! I already wrote my feelings about it somewhere on the forum, so I'm not going to repeat myself.

The main thing in this tread is that there is some form of panic, and I don't think there is reason for panic for those who are not a die-hard daytrader who trades many more then just a few players in a season time.

I have 21 players at this moment, bought a PG to be trained somewhere in the second half of the season, in the meantime I need to sell at least 3 of my inside players which I am training for over a full season now (just not intensively), and that will be after the new rules took effect. I also want to sell 1 or 2 PGs, and possibly 1 to 3 SG-SFs in the next 14 weeks. I realy don't think I need to fear the new rules will affect my team though. And it shouldn't since none of this is trading. If we add all up I'll be selling up to 8 players in 1 season time, I think BBs will alow this amount easely. Ofcourse it gets a diffrent story when you buy 40 players and sell as much each season...

They are not your friends; they dispise you. I am the only one you can count on. Trust me.
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