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41887.7 in reply to 41887.6
Date: 8/10/2008 12:55:06 PM
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maybe it needs a time to settle a game into some kind of stereotype, now is every game so unreal just because there are lot of so different and bad players...

tactic isn't point of winning or losing at these days mostly (as far I see from my xp)

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41887.8 in reply to 41887.7
Date: 8/10/2008 2:07:52 PM
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maybe you can have a look at my cup finals. My team was not as good as my opponent's, yet I won the game.
Maybe I am wrong, but I believe the reason why I won the cup was pure tactics...

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41887.9 in reply to 41887.1
Date: 8/10/2008 5:20:57 PM
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i don't see another strtegic element in it, it goes a bit more to more random for me or the same strategical inpact.


From: Shoei

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41887.10 in reply to 41887.9
Date: 8/15/2008 12:27:53 AM
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i dont see any problem with this but it really is going to be hard work not just on us but on bb too

but come on! if you are going to mix offenses along quarters unless you have a all around team meaning all of them can play inside and out no matter what skill level there is then its ok

but this could give you another work of setting your lineup

and lastly if this was done probably . . . if you are diligent enough to make things jumble around, but normally ill see players just play it out already.

too much work, one of the beauty of bb is the simplicity it gives to its users navigating doing this makes it more work :D

From: CrazyEye

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41887.11 in reply to 41887.10
Date: 8/15/2008 5:51:26 AM
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but come on! if you are going to mix offenses along quarters unless you have a all around team meaning all of them can play inside and out no matter what skill level there is then its ok


when i mixed offense i could play push the ball, today ;)

I don't know what it brings if you had to look the oppponent tactic one times or forut times every quarter, when you are unsure play man-to-man or push the else, else play something like insidefocus, switching it very quarter has nothing to do with tactics for me.

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41887.12 in reply to 41887.3
Date: 8/15/2008 4:15:11 PM
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It's a great idea. Give the coach more chances to change the game consideing the actual coach does not when the game is not going your way.

The coach does adjust tactics over the course of the game. Consider part of the last News item:

• Game Engine Update: 1st Quarter Logic – We’ve improved the learning algorithm used in our game engine, so the in-game coach will learn to shift tactics slightly earlier in the game. This will lead to first-quarter scores that are more consistent with the team’s performance during the rest of the game.

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41887.13 in reply to 41887.12
Date: 8/15/2008 7:12:39 PM
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i wrote that before the update so thabks for the heads up

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41887.14 in reply to 41887.13
Date: 8/17/2008 4:04:35 PM
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I told that because when i played in run & gun, i'd never seen a team to shoot 35 3pts in a game!!!

I propose to choose the strategy before the game for each quarter or each halftime ;)

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41887.15 in reply to 41887.12
Date: 8/25/2008 1:10:03 PM
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The coach doesn't actually shift the tactics that you have specifically set prior to the game. He shifts his decision making process, which consists of calling timeouts, when and who to rotate, etc.

From: Vos
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41887.16 in reply to 41887.15
Date: 8/25/2008 1:12:20 PM
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But yeah, back on topic. I really like this idea. I think this game would be better off in the long run if the strategic aspects are more in-depth. Right now, the game isn't complex enough for me. I only spend a few minutes researching my opponents and customizing my lineup/tactics, which there aren't many options to begin with.

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41887.17 in reply to 41887.6
Date: 8/30/2008 7:13:49 AM
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However I do not argue that more options is always pleasant I think that in this case it would mean more gambling and less real tactical game play. What will the other player play each quarter? what should I play to counter his tactics?
This will be very hard and more then often gambling will take place. Is this what we want?
Personnaly I don't like that idea.


Gambling is what we have now. We don't have any clue about the tactic the opponent will play. If he decides to change his habits and surprise us, we are lost.

What the game needs is a big amount of conditions and consecuences. For example.
"If player x of the opponent team is on the floor, I play player y"
"If I am winning/losing for more than 20 in the last quarter, I play my bench players"
"If the other team is playing inside, I defend 2-3"
"If player y has played the 30 minutes he needed, I substitute it"
"If any player has 3 fouls in the first half, he goes to the bench" (no need for the simulation to do that for us)
and so on...

That is the kind of strategic decisions that a real coach has to do.

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