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Date: 8/29/2008 4:50:43 PM
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For those trying to understand the economic system, I think I'd mention a couple more things here:

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​1) It's probably worth mentioning the skill of your PR guy when trying to look at attendance. Some top teams invest heavily and some do not, and his skill definitely affects the formulas.

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​2) One of the problems with the attendance system is that a number of pieces started out at N/A, since this was a new system and we wanted to reduce the burden on teams due to their past without any announcement as to what might be important. As these pieces all fill up, I suspect that for a well-run team, the attendance will increase a bit more.

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​3) I think one of the pieces of confusion here is that since the top teams have been able in the past to essentially have a blank check (or blank cheque, as Sascha and Mark keep correcting me), they have become accustomed to being able to afford to pay $40k/week in scouting and for a level 10 staff member of each type, along with being able to pay for the best talent available and still have some money to fund further improvements. We hope to have designed the game so that all teams need to make choices, including the top ones, and while a top team is more likely to be able to benefit from better staff, this still does not mean that three level 10 staff members and $40k/week is going to be a budget compatible with a good product on the court. The average Division I team spends $800k/season on staff right now and $1.7M/season on player salaries. As the salaries grow quite quickly at the top level of staff, I might suggest that top teams looking to bring in a little bit more player salary while keeping the books balanced have an obvious place to turn. It's also the case that teams who expect to finish near the top of Division I might save the approximately $300k that they average spending on scouting, when they're going to be stuck at the bottom of the draft order. We've reduced the budget to the point where you have to make decisions instead of blindly spending on everything in sight, but I would hope top managers like yourselves would see this as a challenge rather than an insult. :)

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​Finally, since I have access to global numbers, I have compared the average attendance for regular-season games played in the last 30 days (end of season 5 vs. first two games of season 6). I used the end of season 5 because arena expansion is a strong effect.

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​In division I, the average attendance is 7% higher so far in season 6 for human home teams. This is over a different set of arenas, but arenas have gone from 82.1% of capacity to 89.2% of capacity globally.

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​In division II, the average attendance is up 6%, going from 84.7% of capacity to 89.2% of capacity.

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​In division III, the average attendance is up 0.6%, from 82.3% of capacity to 82.8%.

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​In lower divisions, the average attendance is down 1.5%, with the typical team under their initial capacity of 5000 seats.

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​Finally -- and as you know we're not going to post any official estimates until the all-star break, and the final numbers at the trading deadline -- as I mentioned at the outset, the players union is only taking a share until player salaries catch up, and as they catch up, the players union share will decrease. Based upon current training rates, I would estimate that the division I tax is most likely to be in the 15-30% range for season 7, with the division II tax most likely to be in the 5-20% range. These numbers depend upon the rate at which the high-wage-earning players are increasing in salary, and as the season progresses, it will become easier to predict what the final numbers will be. I will -- one more time -- issue the disclaimer that ​this is a rough, back-of-the-envelope estimate and that I am not responsible for anybody who gives it any credibility whatsoever.​




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Date: 8/29/2008 4:51:56 PM
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For min egen del har jeg merket den nye økonomiske virkeligheten godt, men ønsker den forsåvidt velkommen ettersom den neppe kunne fortsatt slik det gjorde for meg i fjor. Nå må jeg, slik BB-Charles skriver, gjøre valg jeg ikke trengte å gjøre tidligere.

Dummet meg forøvrig ut da endringene slapp. Overtolket betydningen av tilskuerøkningen samt at jeg over lengre tid har undret meg over store klubbers enorme stadioner uten at de fikk spesielt mye igjen for sine investeringer. Hva viste de som jeg ikke gjorde?

Da disse nyhetene ble postet tenkte jeg at dette var grunnen til den evige utbyggingen og knallet til med en utbygging på 6000 bleachers, disse er enda ikke ferdigbygd og de pengene ser jeg nok ikke igjen.

Jeg lurer, hva er vitsen med en slik stadion?

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Date: 8/29/2008 8:41:53 PM
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​1) It's probably worth mentioning the skill of your PR guy when trying to look at attendance.
Vi har en lvl 10 talsmann og henter $ 30 292 i solgte varer på det. Trekker man fra ukelønn: $ 22 507 blir det ikke mye netto, men vi håper at hjemmekampene i serien har fulle tribuner takket være Maximo Oneil.
Trolig vil det bli endringer i økonomien etterhvert. Den som føler seg kallet kan jo kanskje referere denne meningsutvekslingen på et engelsk forum?

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Date: 8/30/2008 3:05:36 AM
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Jeg fikk inn $49,000 fra marketing forrige uke...

Med mitt lønnsbudsjett øker pengebingen jevnt og trutt,
dog i et ganske bedagelig tempo sammenlignet med forrige sesong.

Verdt å ta i betraktning at prisene nå også er av annen kaliber.

Landslagets point guard Anders Linnet ble, som flere la merke til, lagt ut for
salg med 3 x tremendous skills. Prisantydning 7,9 mill, resultatet var ingen bud.
Han ble lagt ut rett etter til 4,4 mill. Fortsatt ingen bud (!)

Nå tar det meg uansett like lang til å spare 4,5 mill nå, som det tok å spare
10 mill forrige sesong, som antagelig ville vært prisen hans da.

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Date: 8/30/2008 12:47:13 PM
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Trolig vil det bli endringer i økonomien etterhvert. Den som føler seg kallet kan jo kanskje referere denne meningsutvekslingen på et engelsk forum?


Den diskusjonen er godt i gang allerede:-)

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Date: 8/31/2008 6:08:03 AM
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Den diskusjonen er godt i gang allerede:-)
Det er bra. Vollsvegen Idrettsforening har hatt to kamper som har gitt inntekter etter billettsalg, denne måneden. Det er ikke nok til å holde et lag gående!

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