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73785.7 in reply to 73785.6
Date: 2/19/2009 11:08:27 AM
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The system isn't broke, and doesn't need fixing.

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73785.8 in reply to 73785.6
Date: 2/19/2009 12:03:31 PM
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Taxes are too low...
Since no evidence or reasoning is offered, I am not sure how you came to this conclusion.

Have you ever seen team owner that make money on reselling?
Please do show me a team like this. How much money do you think they have earned trading? How many teams like this do you think there are in BB?

And is it right that players are buying with the aim of being selled to other team? I don't think so.
Actually, as long as it is not possible to make extremely large profits, this type of trading is an expected feature of the transfer market. So you're wrong.

And I think that such kind of trades must be prohibitten. It's normal to train players and then sell them, or buy player to increase team level.

So how much is normal? Is training 1 skill level normal? Or maybe 2? Or is it normal to spend 5 season training each player before you sell them?

Now taxes take into account two parameters: transfers' frequency and number of days playes spent with a team. I think that the second parameter must be replaced by a number of minutes player spent on the floor at current team.

As someone pointed out, the system isn't broken, so there is no reason to fix it. As for your particular suggestion, there is a cost for having a player on your team, his salary, which being paid weekly regardless of the minutes played.

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73785.9 in reply to 73785.8
Date: 2/20/2009 2:04:24 AM
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Since no evidence or reasoning is offered, I am not sure how you came to this conclusion.

Just look at marketplace and look after good players transfer (I mean players who are quite expensive)

Actually, as long as it is not possible to make extremely large profits, this type of trading is an expected feature of the transfer market. So you're wrong.

How much money do you think is a "extremely large profits"? 2 million in a season isn't extremely large? I saw managers with this numbers.

So how much is normal? Is training 1 skill level normal? Or maybe 2? Or is it normal to spend 5 season training each player before you sell them?

It's another topic of discussion...

As someone pointed out, the system isn't broken, so there is no reason to fix it. As for your particular suggestion, there is a cost for having a player on your team, his salary, which being paid weekly regardless of the minutes played.

The system isn't broken, but it isn't perfect and can be upgraded.

From: CrazyEye

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73785.10 in reply to 73785.9
Date: 2/20/2009 4:22:31 AM
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So how much is normal? Is training 1 skill level normal? Or maybe 2? Or is it normal to spend 5 season training each player before you sell them?



It's another topic of discussion...


no thats the question for this topic, if you just train one or two skills, you sell him fast after buying it, with profit.

Actually, as long as it is not possible to make extremely large profits, this type of trading is an expected feature of the transfer market. So you're wrong.


How much money do you think is a "extremely large profits"? 2 million in a season isn't extremely large? I saw managers with this numbers.


Really with high cost players? I traded a bit with minute fillers(guys i bought for 1k for the friendly), and i got 14 transfers and just get 70% of the sum of them. So if you buy and good player you need to make, 42% profit after making a few transfer to sell them with +/- 0.

With cheap player you could easily makes 5-10* of the buying sum, so it could work with them, but i don't know how it works with normal transfer when you make masses of them, because i would say that it was with me a +/- thing when i was going to sell a trainee with 2% extra fee next season for 5 Million then i have to make large profit with mickey mouse transfer in the past.

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73785.11 in reply to 73785.9
Date: 2/20/2009 6:16:28 AM
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Just look at marketplace and look after good players transfer (I mean players who are quite expensive)

What exactly am I supposed to look for in them, and how will it justify your statement that "taxes are too low"?

How much money do you think is a "extremely large profits"? 2 million in a season isn't extremely large? I saw managers with this numbers.

What exactly did you see, and how did you determine how much this user paid in taxes? 2 million, by the way, is the price of 1 guard who has been trained properly for about 1 seasonl

It's another topic of discussion...

No, it isn't, really, since it's your main argument in the proposition of drawing some arbitrary limitation.

The system isn't broken, but it isn't perfect and can be upgraded.

The system isn't broken but needs fixing? Interesting.

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73785.12 in reply to 73785.11
Date: 2/20/2009 7:20:16 AM
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If you don't see anything it's you problem. It was only my suggestion and it was my opinion. If you think that it is normal that player reselling is a good idea, it is you opinion. But problem with transfers is real and I'm not the only man, who think so. In our Russian forum was a discussion about this and i'm not the only who think so.
I can gather information to approve my suggetion about profit, but i think that it is only waste of time, because developers and persons like you think that there is no problem.
You have made a lot of progress in it game and you don't need any progress in that game, so you don't want to change anything. But when you lose championship to the manager who build his team on reselling you will remember my suggestions...

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73785.13 in reply to 73785.12
Date: 2/20/2009 8:22:18 AM
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If you don't see anything it's you problem.


You make a compelling argument.

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73785.14 in reply to 73785.13
Date: 2/20/2009 9:23:04 AM
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:P
Sorry, but I was irritated by an argument "I don't think anything, so there is no need to change it".

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73785.15 in reply to 73785.14
Date: 2/20/2009 9:47:05 AM
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:P
Sorry, but I was irritated by an argument "I don't think anything, so there is no need to change it".

You're suggesting the change, so you need to convince everyone why it's needed. That's how it works.

As far as I am concerned, I see an system that is already implemented and which works. So yes, for me there is no need to change it until I am convinced that a superior solution exists.

Sadly, I don't think you have managed to convince anyone in the existence of such a solution.

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73785.16 in reply to 73785.15
Date: 2/20/2009 6:20:43 PM
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You're suggesting the change, so you need to convince everyone why it's needed. That's how it works.
As far as I am concerned, I see an system that is already implemented and which works. So yes, for me there is no need to change it until I am convinced that a superior solution exists.

If you don't want to make any changes then there is no way to change your opinion;)
It is a suggestion and need to be discussed, but I see that this forum isn't popular. I didn't see any discussion, I saw only aggression and unwillingness to discuss anything.
Sadly, I don't think you have managed to convince anyone in the existence of such a solution.

It's better to voice only your decision and give everyone chance to voice there opinion. You opinion and opion of other people can be different;)

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73785.17 in reply to 73785.16
Date: 2/20/2009 10:05:30 PM
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It's better to voice only your decision and give everyone chance to voice there opinion. You opinion and opion of other people can be different;)

In between the four people who bothered to comment (that'd be me, dhoff, JuicePats and CrazyEye, the voice seems pretty unanimous. This should give you food for thought.

Either way, no-one is prohibited from posting here, so you must rest assured that the right of people to express opinion is guaranteed.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 2/20/2009 10:07:08 PM

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