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77769.7 in reply to 77769.6
Date: 2/28/2009 4:45:12 PM
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Could it be that if all other 4 candidates had 0 votes they were just dropped even though they were all tied for 4th, technically?

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Date: 2/28/2009 4:46:56 PM
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Could it be that if all other 4 candidates had 0 votes they were just dropped even though they were all tied for 4th, technically?


That's a reasonable theory, for sure.

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Date: 2/28/2009 4:57:30 PM
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Could it be that if all other 4 candidates had 0 votes they were just dropped even though they were all tied for 4th, technically?


That would be correct.

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77769.10 in reply to 77769.9
Date: 2/28/2009 5:00:09 PM
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Could it be that if all other 4 candidates had 0 votes they were just dropped even though they were all tied for 4th, technically?


That would be correct.


So is this considered a bug, or a gap in the rules documentation? I vote bug... for small countries, probably a good idea to not cut the zero-vote users.

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Date: 2/28/2009 5:15:47 PM
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So is this considered a bug, or a gap in the rules documentation? I vote bug... for small countries, probably a good idea to not cut the zero-vote users.

I'm pretty sure it's a feature.

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77769.12 in reply to 77769.10
Date: 2/28/2009 5:38:58 PM
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The three candidates voted themselves, so currently there is a three way tie (mot probably) each with one vote.

Being a small country it wouldn't hurt to let them have more than those 4 first days, but I guess the game goes the way the game goes.

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77769.13 in reply to 77769.11
Date: 2/28/2009 5:43:17 PM
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So is this considered a bug, or a gap in the rules documentation? I vote bug... for small countries, probably a good idea to not cut the zero-vote users.

I'm pretty sure it's a feature.


If so, I don't like it. For countries where 1 or 2 votes are enough to win, you're potentially eliminating viable candidates.

Anyway, if it is working as designed, let's get the rules fixed.

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77769.15 in reply to 77769.14
Date: 3/1/2009 2:25:55 PM
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Anyway, if it is working as designed, let's get the rules fixed.



It's working as designed. The reason we picked this solution is that the typical small country HT election has about 150 candidates and 3 votes, and just turns into a complete mess.

When it's cutting 7 to 3, I agree that's somewhat less of a problem, but I guess the issue is that as we grow, it's going to be a heck of a lot more than 7.


Can the rules be more clear about this particular thing though? Just specify that anyone with 0 votes is out or something

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77769.16 in reply to 77769.10
Date: 3/4/2009 8:28:42 AM
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there is no point in not cutting them... they didn't get votes , so they are not likely to get votes in the second round either...

besides, let's asume a weird situation, in which there are 500 candidates, but only 3 got votes. then all 500 would stay in the second round, since they all are tied for the 4th spot...

it is better to eliminate every candidate with 0 votes (didn't they vote for themselves??)

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77769.17 in reply to 77769.16
Date: 3/4/2009 8:31:36 AM
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there is no point in not cutting them... they didn't get votes , so they are not likely to get votes in the second round either...


Absolutely disagree. The point is that in small countries, you end up cutting managers who may be only one vote away from winning, and there are all kinds of good reasons why someone may not have voted before the first cut. This policy may even effectively end the election in some cases, where only one candidate gets a vote before the cut.

If the reasoning is to keep the list manageable in the case where there are large numbers of candidates in a small country, I can accept that.

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