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168997.71 in reply to 168997.57
Date: 1/13/2011 1:26:02 PM
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Looks like it is just you and I now Griffin... Oh and that other guy 'Future NBA Hall of famer'.

I have a question to ask the both of you. What is the ideal build of a 'realistic' NT power forward? Also what skills do you consider to be over rated and under rated?

Cheers

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Date: 1/13/2011 2:08:19 PM
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ugh... I am not sure if I should do this but I've suspected this since you first started posting on the public forums and I think I have enough circumstantial evidence to just come out and ask it:
Did you previously post under the name "shootingguardmagic?"


I also had the same thoughts when he started posting...

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Date: 1/13/2011 2:49:17 PM
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realistic power forward?
In numbers:

JS 13 Jr 6
OD 7 HN 7
DR 9 PA 10
IS 15 ID 17
RB 15

of course you can have more skills, but ratio would be like that. I really like balanced players, almost an SF


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Date: 1/13/2011 3:17:28 PM
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I'd say a NT Power Forward should need at least strong in all outside skills. To me, I think JS, OD, and Passing are all pretty important, and should be a couple levels higher than that. In general, strong is too low for many skills, but that would be a minimum of what they should have. That is for the future of the NT, not the present, because I don't think there are enough options currently in Canada that have those skills and high enough inside skills to be effective at the NT level. TSA is a good guide of what to make a PF, but in the future, to keep salaries down and be a big time NT PF, I think even higher outside skills than TSA are needed. To be a top tier NT, we have to find advantages and having extremely well rounded PFs is a good way to do that, because we don't have any teams in Canada that are able and willing to have a monster salary player on their team, so we need our player to be very well rounded, as well as have great inside skills. That is what the top managers in the game are looking for, and you really want your top NT players to be on an experienced manager's team, so that they stay in good game shape. Our user base isn't as large as many other countries, so we can't just waste our good bigs by making them monster salary guys that fade once they are transferred because they find themselves on a team with a bad manager.

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Date: 1/13/2011 3:26:26 PM
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that was supposed to be a realistic goal. Of course everyone would love more skills than that. i think the better question would be how perfect PF would look having x number of skills. this way you could find out how manager prioritizes skills.

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Date: 1/13/2011 3:30:17 PM
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Would you consider TSA a salary monster? He is obviously very well paid but rightfully so in my opinion.

I do agree that a solid PF should have decent outside skills. I would like to see them more along these lines:

JS- Prolific or better JR- respectable or strong will do
OD- Proficient or better Handling- strong or better
Driving- Strong is fine Passing- Strong or better

The big difference is a PF who can shoot the thee ball and defend on the outside. These multi skilled players are unique and are what will make our NT continue to improve.

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Date: 1/13/2011 3:30:50 PM
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of course you can have more skills, but ratio would be like that. I really like balanced players, almost an SF



You can have more skills than that? I have been looking for such a player on the transfer market and I can tell you they are quite rare. Actually, I do not even want that good, the salary would be too much for me to bear.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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Date: 1/13/2011 8:54:38 PM
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look at Glenn Richars. in 4 seasons of training he can have a bit more than that, and imagine if someone would start with better JS than him

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Date: 1/13/2011 9:39:48 PM
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Training a player to look anything close to that is very tough. Can it happen? Yes, but it is a lot of work and effort. Trust me I am getting close to completion on a PF that is very unique. Momar Maja will be a dominating force in time, but it has been 5 seasons of dedicated training. Training of that nature is tough as it makes the rest of the team suffer with alot of out of position training.


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168997.80 in reply to 168997.66
Date: 1/13/2011 9:51:16 PM
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Chris your suspicions have been confirmed, thru a PM to myself. I won't share the details but Future NBA Hall of famer has previously been banned. And his IP address is blocked from the off-site forum. He expects that in time his good behavior will get him back on to the forum. If anyone is interested please let me know and I will forward the PM, that is the direction from Future NBA Hall of famer.

Thankfully I am very confident that the Canadian community will not elect him as there are several far better options. But I must say it is commendable that he has shown up and faced the fire. Maybe in time he will be mature enough to make a realistic campaign for a NT position.


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Date: 1/14/2011 8:31:48 AM
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Well the schedule is out. So there should be some decent discussion on how we handle it. Anyone??

There is a real nice start to the schedule that will allow us to build some very solid enthusiasm and not really show our hand tactics wise. The first four games against Paraguay, Jamaica, Dominican Republic and Costa Rica are all very winnable. In fact they should be winnable with TIE's, depending on how they play there other games.

Then we face Mexico and Uruguay, both of these teams are slated in the top twenty in the word so will be very tough. Depending on how they handle there games previos to this we will have to win one or even both of these to advance. The goal will obviously be both but that may be a tall order depending on rosters, gameshape etc.

Overall I really like it and feel it gives us a great chance. It will allow us to continue to gain ground on the top teams as many of them have players that are not recieving more training, and the bulk of our roster should still be recieving training. It will also allow some of the 'bubble' players to show whether they are worthy or not.

No matter how the election goes you can be sure I will be watching.

GO CANADA GO!

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