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Date: 9/15/2008 3:23:34 AM
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ok, I present my players what I'm talking about and training speed, 8 weeks:

1. age 19; 6'2"
Jump Shot: prolific Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: awful
Driving: average Passing: respectable

JS pops in 3th week, JR pops in 2th week

2. age 19; 6'4"
Jump Shot: prominent Jump Range: strong ↑
Outside Def.: inept Handling: mediocre
Driving: strong Passing: average

JS - no pops, JR pops in 1th week and 8th week

3. age 19; 6'5"
Jump Shot: prolific ↑ Jump Range: strong
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: average
Driving: strong Passing: average

JS pops in 8th week, JR pops in 2th week

4. age 20; 6'2"
Jump Shot: prominent ↑ Jump Range: respectable ↑
Outside Def.: strong Handling: prominent
Driving: prominent Passing: sensational

JS pops in 1th week and 8th week, JR pops in 3th, 5th and 8th

5. age 20; 6'0"
Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: awful Handling: prolific
Driving: prolific Passing: prolific

JS pops in 6th week, JR pops in 3th and 6th

6. age 20; 6'0"
Jump Shot: prominent Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: inept Handling: strong
Driving: average Passing: respectable

JS pops in 2th week, JR pops i 4th

Trainer 9-10 lvl

Training JR for PG/SG, only player 3 gets up to 48 min. on every weeks, others plays 40 to 50 min. So tell me, how it is possible, there are such big differences in training??



Last edited by Aric at 9/15/2008 3:41:33 AM

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And all of these players have popped at least twice in your team, so you're sure you haven't been training someone who you bought with additional trainings above the base level?

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 9/15/2008 9:16:05 AM
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Ok, thanks a lot.

Player 4 pops every 2-3 weeks, and player 3 needs more than 6 weeks? (JR)
It is very strange. I can only think on height and potential. Maybe the other abilities.

Can you write the potential of the players? Thanks.

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I have noticed that training OD height takes a very big effect...shorter players trains in OD much more faster than taller ones....and the diffrence might be huge...I havent collected any data to prove this....

Ragans

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Date: 9/15/2008 10:51:35 AM
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its sad to really see that height makes a big factor

i mean look at magic johnson who plays PG and has tenacious D thats the reason MJ ( yes micheal jordan ) had a hard time going against him

how about ron harper . . . ( yeah his not that known defensve player )

how many 6'3 to 6'6 in the nba that plays PG , more over europe and russia the euroleague


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Date: 9/15/2008 11:01:30 AM
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Magic was one of the five greatest to ever play the game, so using him as an example is silly. Besides, Cooper covered Jordan.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 9/15/2008 11:08:55 AM
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I bought this players in age 18(one 19 #6)

look at closer at #4 and #5. they got other skills very high(DV, HN, PS), so I think this is the clue.

but differences, IMHO, are so big.:( or maybe I'm wrong...

P.S. when I was trained, before this 8 weeks, Jump Shots, they where poping faster, too. but differences was smaller.





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Maybe the other abilities.

this is it.:) but this is strange...

potential dasn't matter on this skills level. Players #3 to #6 are allstars.


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look at closer at #4 and #5. they got other skills very high(DV, HN, PS), so I think this is the clue.

Not everyone necessarily trains only respectable or 18-19 year old players. I certainly don't, so this is not much of a hint.

High secondary skills will, indeed, speed up your training. Or to put it in another way, players with comparatively lower secondary skills will train their primary skills slower.

Other than that, I am in the same boat with you -- training is a process that takes into account multiple variables, so training speed cannot always be predicted with absolute precision.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 9/15/2008 12:14:44 PM
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so training speed cannot always be predicted with absolute precision.

yes, you've got thar right, so my post was only information from observation of training speed.:)

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so training speed cannot always be predicted with absolute precision.

yes, you've got thar right, so my post was only information from observation of training speed.:)

Yeah, sorry if I'm being redundant, but I am trying to juggle a bit too many things at the moment...

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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