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BBs are smart guys and this is just a piece of cake for them..
first of all, a rebuilding team doesn't lose all the games by +50 if it's rebuilding for the same division..
training 18-19 year-olds and selling all the strong players is not a way to rebuild for a top division team..
it should keep an average squad to get a few wins and protect it's fan base because nobody would want to watch a game when he knows his team will lose by +50..
you can do this in a third division and you can get some wins, so it's a rebuilding usual for a third division team..
training 18-19 year-olds in a top division without feeding any supporting figures is not rebuilding..

I have different opinion about rebuilding and recognizing that.
- it is possible that there are no such players for sale or even exists in BB, so you have only one option, train those from scratch.
- if you believe that you need such players which doesn't exists, you might be ready to focus on training even if you will not be able to compete in current division. Then if you are not able to compete, why not sell all other players also. Those players will be too old and wrong skill set when your training program is ready.
- so your target can be in highest divisions even if you start training 18-19years old players...

Of course I agree that it's weird and not right that fan and arena income remains so high if you are focusing on training only.

PS. I'm not going to say what kind of players I'm not able to find or even doesn't exists ;)

Last edited by Codemasters at 4/20/2011 8:04:13 AM

Like I said in another thread, I think one big problem is mixing the draft system of a NBA-like league, with a european-style promotion-demotion system.
In the NBA, teams don't tank to save money, they tank to draft prospects. In Europe, there is no incentive on tanking.
Yes, some teams don't have the money to compete, but they don't just "save up" during a couple of seasons and then buy a superstar. That doesn't happen. They just do the best they can, and try to build their brand.
So in europe, the closer to the top of the league, the better. If you tank, you end up being demoted and there is no draft.
In america, the further away from the middle, the better. Everybody can buy a few veterans to make the playoffs, but they usually have no chance to get past the first round. Fans also hate that. I'm a fan of Toronto, and this has been a tanking season. Yes, tickets will be a lot cheaper next year, but some fans do see the long term benefits of allowing young players to make mistakes and gain experience. However, if that meant the Raptors would be playing in the D-League next season, I can tell you the fans would NOT be happy.

Hey Charles...What happens to teams under the floor? There seems to be two teams in the JBBL quitting the game but have 5 weeks until they go bot...Do they get 25-0's even though they only have 3 players(only new draft picks)?

Why should they? Know the rules.

It looks to me it's good to tank in a small country and not tank in a big country. Seems a bit unfair.

So after the change, I am dangerously close to the PSF.
I just promoted to D.III, my players are salary efficient, their salaries amount to 70 059 and the PSF is 60 697. I have 16 players, and I was going to sell 3 of them, but now what do I do? If I sell my 3 draftees I will be under the PSF.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe I can avoid relegation with the players I have now. This PSF is just another reason to care about "the manager is doing everything he can to improve the team" and not about "I'm familiar with the players and not afraid they get traded".
Well, call me crazy but I was trying to avoid that.

New teams have no salary floor until their first offseason.

Maybe promoted teams also could be exempt from the PSF for one season?

Like this update. Removes some of the incentive of tanking so move in the right direction.

Thanks!!!!