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I know Australia is far from Spain, Italy and Poland but it does have 547 players and is the 25th biggest nation out of the 98 in the game In our top league we have several teams from season 8, 9 and even one (me!) from season 10. Whitebeard a team from season 9 just won the national championship last season.

So it is possible for younger teams to rise up in medium sized nations, I don't know why it is so hard in the massive ones.

Part of it is the longer path.

If you start in a 4th league in Germany - probably a "low sublevel one" (like IV.1 or such), you might be stuck for 2-3 seasons there because you cannot really pass by the relegated teams. Once you get promoted, it takes another 3-5 seasons for the next level, and then you have to establish for another 2-3 seasons till you are ready to compete for promotion (and you still need some luck with the relegated team). Each league level takes 3-5 seasons to promote, if the league you´re entering is competitive and active imho. The first level might go quicker.

With some luck in the draft or daytrading you might make a step every 2-3 seasons, but that´s still 8-12 seasons in Italy or Spain and at least 6-8 in Germany. There´s only so much you can speed this up by excellent management, actually, I think a promotion every 4 seasons (without tanking or relegating in between) is already an upper tier management and coaching. Now we´re down to simple counting ...

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 1/5/2012 9:09:50 PM

I am in no doubt it is much tougher there. In Australia many managers can win division IV in their first season, obviously only 1/16 but I did it and I know a lot of others that have done it. Division III is much harder. I won it my first season but I only know of three other teams ever in Australia that went IV, III, II in their first three seasons and three of these four ended up getting relegated at some stage. It really depends on what league you are in and the quality of the demotees. If you are in a league and the demotee was only semi-active you can probably move up easily, but if you get a tanker or a yo-yo team drop down into your league you are in trouble.

d-league is the topic, the rest can go for pm or maybe in an gloabal thread we should have 1-2 in this direction ;)

I agree about the delicate economy. I would hate for any suggestion to upset the fragile balance of this. But BB has made improvements/modifications in the past in order to try and rectify issues and these changes have been salary related. So its not that its impossible to do, it just requires correct implimentation and generally a 'softly softly' approach as opposed to sledge hammer approach.

I would personally keep the training methodology the same. Same speed, not randomness. Otherwise i think it kind of defeats the purpose. I mean, you still want to get value from the D league and not be this pointless league where u end up with random useless players.
I think for simplicities sake, keeping it the same as normal training would be best.

The more i e thought about this concept, its almost just like having an extra scrimmage per week, but only selected players would be able to play. This is a simplified way of thinking of the d-league concept.

I will try to not keep this off topic but I see your points and agree.

On topic, while D-League would be fun, if it is just like another scrimmage it will be meaningless.

I agree. If you want free training then get knocked out of the cup early and you can train whatever you want using scrimmage minutes.

Having a D-league will only deflate the economy more as there are more trained players available. Besides, the D-League games is kind of pointless if winning or losing does not matter. It is essentially just another scrimmage.

To not say what I really think about the reason (of your "argument") of what you've wrote, I'll just say that it then, YOU will not be one of those who will use it.

I know that I would, and I guess that a lot of lower leagues user will have.
As the draft is basically a feature not really used by the top leagues, then there is no reason not to implement also this (BB-managing) feature.